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I want to make something clear, just so we can prevent the mincing of words. Most here are advocating removing a child from her family and placing her in foster care, for the sake of money. I want everyone to remember that clearly.

Especially considering that the grandparents have lowered their selling price. Seems to me that the National Socialist running the HOA is running all the buyers off.

I want to make something clear, just so we can prevent the mincing of words. Most here are advocating removing a child from her family and placing her in foster care, for the sake of money. I want everyone to remember that clearly. Especially considering that the grandparents have lowered their selling price. Seems to me that the National Socialist running the HOA is running all the buyers off.

My first thought was to be humane and cut them some slack... the house is for sale. But, then again, this has been going on for 3 years. Perhaps the house is way over-priced i.e. its not really for sale. Anyway, hard to tell what's going on.

Most here are advocating removing a child from her family and placing her in foster care, for the sake of money.

No, most people here are advocating living up to one's contractual obligations.

Accusing someone of greed and trying to 'guilt' them into agreeing with you is a disservice to your fellow FReepers, IMHO.

I want to make something clear, just so we can prevent the mincing of words. Most here are advocating removing a child from her family and placing her in foster care, for the sake of money. I want everyone to remember that clearly.

While you are mincing your words, please find some substantiation for them. I went back and re-read all of the posts prior to yours, and see no hint that anyone is advocating foster care for the child. Perhaps that was in the article, but certainly not in the posts for which you are excoriating everyone.

Most of the posts are simply stating that the grandparents and the child must abide by the contract they have with the HOA. Personally, I despise HOAs. But this couple voluntarily ceded some of their freedom to the association, and now don't think it's fair that the rules they agreed to are being enforced. Having dropped their price by about 5 percent doesn't absolve them of their responsibility to follow the rules they agreed to.

If you can cite specific posts that support your assertion that foster care is being advocated, please do so. Otherwise, stop trying to emote everyone into a corner.

I want to make something clear, just so we can prevent the mincing of words. Most here are advocating removing a child from her family and placing her in foster care, for the sake of money. I want everyone to remember that clearly. Especially considering that the grandparents have lowered their selling price. Seems to me that the National Socialist running the HOA is running all the buyers off.

It is not clear at all. You have no information to support your claims.

If you think that everyone's focus is all wrong I recommend you hustle on down there and buy that house. ...No? Why, I'm suitably outraged! How dare you place money before that child!

Don't have enough to pony up for the house? No problem - I'll come over, review your finances and decide what you should pay - how's that? You contend that your finances and how you spend your money is none of my business?

Good point. Very good point. Now how's about you keep your accusations to yourself, seeing as how you have one finger pointed our way and three of your own pointed back at you?

Frankly, it is rather paranoid and warped to think, based on what little information is provided, that the HOA has nothing better to do than conspire to drive away buyers in order to force this child into foster care.

Nobody has yet brought up the likelihood that the grandparents are receiving funds from the state for caring for this child. Food stamps, etc. It’s understandable that the grandparents want to stay on the gravy train and continue to receive these funds. It may sound heartless to say this, but they’re saying, Me first, We don’t care about the community’s needs, just continue to give us those state funds.

I want to make something clear, just so we can prevent the mincing of words. Most here are advocating removing a child from her family and placing her in foster care, for the sake of money. I want everyone to remember that clearly.

James, you usually set a higher standard than this...shame on you. These people are not advocating anything for anybody...they are resisting having what is the grandparent's problem become the neighborhood's problem.

No-win situations happen all the time; that's life. It's become increasingly popular for some to create them, then throw themselves upon the mercy of strangers.

It's not "about the child," and it's not "about the grandparents." It's about a neighborhood.

Covenants are a legally enforceable contract. We've all made commitments that we later regretted; it's not the fault of the person who signed the contract with us.

If you don't like HOAs, DON'T BUY A HOUSE IN ONE! And, if you do...don't try to rewrite the rules, retroactively. Three years is long enough; it's too long.