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To: bvw

I don’t have a HOA because I didn’t make the choice and the contract these nitwits did. I don’t know how contracts between free adults are viewed in the socialist heaven you came from but here in what was a free country a contract is a man’s word and a man should be as good as his word. That’s what I meant by quality. It’s an extension of the concept of honesty, but maybe I’m getting beyond your experience.


359 posted on 04/04/2007 5:30:32 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: muir_redwoods
Men are not as good as their word. Sometimes they are and sometimes they ain't. That's why throughout history -- thousands and thousands of years of recorded human history, my friend -- we have institutions called governments, that are instituted between men to establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves AND OUR CHILDREN.

It is these institutions called governments by which in establishing Justice we set up courts, criminal codes, advocates and prosecutors, police, fines, collectors and jails, without all of which contracts could not be enforced.

How like a fool you speak so carelessly of socialism! Socialism and communism are the great evils of the last century and have left hundreds of millions dead as a legacy to their effect.

Society is not socialism! Without the *social* constraints of criminal law, commercial regulation and behavioral codes, standards of weights and measure, standards of legal wording and terminology, common understandings of implicit and common contractual terms -- for not every detail, nuance, and happenstance can or should be anticipated in the wording of a contract -- we devolve to anarchy and anarchy is followed quickly by tyranny -- see France's modern history -- or a total collapse of civilization as once occurred to long ago in Van Damien's Land (Tasmania), and the humans there regressed into a state near animals, wandering naked and having almost no remaining ability to make tools -- or even to sustain a language.

But there is a quicker death wish for a group of humans then that achieved by socialism, communism, anarchy, tyranny, social dissolution and primal animalistic regression.

Even the near-beast humans in Tasmania cared for their children.

But your vile idea of "proper behavior for adults" would have us callously and idiotically (Darwin Award Category idiotic) ignore them, toss them away -- toss them out of any "Proper Adult" nest "Grow wings, damn it!".

Without children, why have laws? In that sense you ARE right. Why bother!

Let's have fun as "Proper Adults" in our age-restricted, gated havens where we can agree between adults to any behavior whatsoever -- just as long as it doesn't result in *children*. And when we die. Who cares?

The world ends.

NO CHILDREN!

363 posted on 04/04/2007 7:08:08 PM PDT by bvw
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