Posted on 04/03/2007 6:15:39 AM PDT by ShadowDancer
Community Sues To Oust 3-Year-Old
Child With Drug-Addict Mom Lives With Grandparents
POSTED: 3:04 pm EDT April 1, 2007
LARGO, Fla. -- A Florida homeowners group wants 3-year-old Kimberly Broffman to take her Big Wheel and hit the road.
They've banded together to oust the toddler from their Tampa-area community, which bans residents under 18.
The child's grandparents, Judie and Jimmy Stottler, admit Kimberly's been living there in violation of homeowners' association rules for three years. They said her mother has a drug problem, and isn't capable of caring for the child.
The grandparents said they live on a fixed income and can't afford to move until they sell their house. So far, there have been no takers to buy their house, even after they lowered the $189,000 asking price by $10,000 six months ago.
They also said they can't afford to hire an attorney.
Judie Stottler supports the family with her $18,000-per year dishwashing job because Jimmy Stottler is disabled and is unable to work.
Judie Stottler's friends told the St. Petersburg Times that they are worried.
"It is so ridiculous that this has gone so far," said Keith Tinsley, a cook who works with her. "She's trying her best to sell her house. It's like they are trying to force her to put Kimberly in foster care.
"These people keep batting her down and batting her down. They're just mean."
Judie Stottler said she is scared that she wil lose her house before she is able to sell it.
"We don't have any family to take us in," Judie Stottler said.
The Lakes homeowners association filed suit to oust Kimberly last month.
Maybe they should rename the place “Darwin’s Acres.”
After all, none of them seem intent on reproducing. :p
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I think these old folks have done about all the reproducing they were going to do about 20 years ago. They are done.
“I am surprised to see this sort of statement on FR. This mother moved to the community prior to having a child, knowing (or being charged with the knowledge) that children were not allowed. She did not have to move there, but she did. THEN she decided to have a child (while apparently unmarried, her choice, her responsibility), prior to selling this home with the anti-child restrictions. I don’t think it is fair to blame the property owners who bought their property reasonably expecting not to have children living in the area. I don’t agree with their choice, but it was THERE choice to make.”
I can’t prove it, but my impression of the situation is somewhat different. I took from it that the grandparents were probably living in this house PRIOR to the child’s birth, so they were in compliance of the rules. It doesn’t mention the daughter( birth mom) living there so I formed a mental picture of her living apart from her family, being a druggie and becoming pregnant. After the birth of the child, and seeing that their daughter was too strung out to care for the baby, they stepped in and took her into their care. Not that it changes the ultimate situation, but that’s MHO.
I personally have a hard time understanding why anyone would want to retire to these adult-only communities. But, obviously, lots of people do and that is their right. These people need to move, although in heart I’m with you. Everyone there bought homes there because they did not want to live around children, as did this couple. Their circumstances changed, so unfortunately, must their residence. I will withhold what I really think about this since there are probably people here who prefer to live in them.
A contract for lifetime slavery is a valid contract said one side, with most good folks agreeing. These folks respected what to their tradition and view was the Law. They were law-respecting, kind, gentelemenly, well-spoken, child-loving, parent respecting folks.
No, said the other. That side including the coarse and the crude, the drunk, the bastard, the profane, the greedy and the violent, and many in it had little regard for being law-abiding.
G-d is the great writer of History. He wrote the result.
That type of contract was in G-d's decision of History -- void.
I want to make something clear, just so we can prevent the mincing of words. Most here are advocating removing a child from her family and placing her in foster care, for the sake of money. I want everyone to remember that clearly.
I interpreted that as a accusation against some of those posting on this thread. Perhaps you didn't "remember clearly" what you wrote.
So then... have you bought the house yet?
pssst! - don't answer the question - it is always better to duck arguments you can't win.
If you are suggesting that agreements to live in a community without children present is akin to slavery, I disagree. I confess that I haven’t given any thought to whether God would approve of such a contract. I should do that, and I will. But, of course, this country honors the freedom of people to believe, or not believe, in the religion of their choice, unfettered by the beliefs of others (even if those beliefs are correct).
I don’t think the Constitution or any law prohibits this sort of agreement. I wouldn’t enter into one like this, but I support the rights of others to do so if they wish.
You disagree. I respect you point of view, I just don’t embrace it, for the reasons I have stated in previous posts.
Ooo! Ooo!
WhatdidIwin?
LOL!
On that point, I wholeheartedly agree!
I see, so you don’t respect others personal property rights.... glad you cleared that up.
Hey, they gave you three years.
Thank ‘em, and leave.
You said, in part: A contract for lifetime slavery is a valid contract said one side, with most good folks agreeing.
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I will have to go and check, but I think the War Between the States effectively dealt with INVOLUNTARY servitude, not a contractual agreement to serve one’s life as a slave. The 13th Amendment deals with both slavery and involuntary servitude.
ROFLMAO.
You and about 3 dozen other Freepers, according to todays threads.
:-)
I’m sure you’d put yer grandkids in a foster home in the HOA told you so.
LOL!
Snide comments... warped illogical thinking... to each his own, don't you think? Opps, bad question, that one.
By golly you found the loop hole! But then, no one said you had to live there. Just give them the money so they don't have to! There now, it wasn't so hard was it?
Wait... that should be Oops..., not Opps... Oops!
What on earth are you talking about? Where does it say anything about the mother moving in to this community?
LOL! If I had a nickle for every time I stuck MY foot in it, we could go without FReepathons for a whole year!
(grin)
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