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Bad Science: Cherry picking data to prove a point about cannabis
The Guardian ^ | March 24, 2007 | Ben Goldacre

Posted on 03/29/2007 3:37:53 PM PDT by JTN

The more I see of the world the more it strikes me that people want more science, rather than less, and that they want to use it in odd ways: to abrogate responsibility, validate a hunch, or render a political or cultural prejudice in deceptively objective terms. As long as you cherry pick the data and keep one eye half closed, you can prove anything with science.

Last week's Independent on Sunday splashed with the headline: Cannabis - An Apology. It went on: "In 1997 this newspaper launched a campaign to decriminalise the drug. If only we had known then what we can reveal today ... record numbers of teenagers are requiring drug treatment as a result of smoking skunk, the highly potent cannabis strain that is 25 times stronger than resin sold a decade ago."

Twice in this story cannabis is said to be 25 times stronger than it was a decade ago. For Rosie Boycott, in her melodramatic recantation, skunk is "30 times stronger". In one inside feature the strength issue is briefly downgraded to a "can". It's even referenced. "The Forensic Science Service says that in the early nineties cannabis would contain around 1% tetrahydrocannabidinol (THC), the mind-altering compound, but can now have up to 25%."

Well I've got the Forensic Science Service data right here, and the earlier data from the Laboratory of the Government Chemist, the UN Drug Control Programme, and the EU's Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction. I think that people are well able to make their own minds up when given true facts.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 03/29/2007 3:37:55 PM PDT by JTN
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To: traviskicks

Ping


2 posted on 03/29/2007 3:38:24 PM PDT by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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3 posted on 03/29/2007 3:43:40 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: JTN

Propaganda
The Big Lie
Marijuana
Makes you die


4 posted on 03/29/2007 3:45:13 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Every American killed by a Mexican truck is a homicide committed by our leaders..)
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To: JTN

I've never understood that whole "it's 20 times stronger" argument. First, I highly question the data. They are probably comaparing some skunk weed from 30 years ago that has been rotting in someones attic to the best stuff that a NORML guy grows in his closet.

But most importantly, who cares? So you only need 2 hits to get stoned where before you need to smoke 5 joints. That's a good thing. Same effect, less tar,etc. in your lungs.


5 posted on 03/29/2007 3:46:02 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: traviskicks

Wow. Imagine that. Libertarians on a pot thread.


6 posted on 03/29/2007 3:47:00 PM PDT by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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To: JTN
They've been doing the same thing with evolution for years.
7 posted on 03/29/2007 3:49:58 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: JTN

Nearly all the potheads I have known have been eff ups in some way or another. And selfish about their need for weed they nearly define themselves by it and not caring much about its impact on others.

And no, I am not thrilled about alcohols impact on society either.

Too late on that. Probably too late for many things now.


8 posted on 03/29/2007 3:52:22 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: JTN
"In 1997 this newspaper launched a campaign to decriminalise the drug. If only we had known then what we can reveal today ... record numbers of teenagers are requiring drug treatment as a result of smoking skunk, the highly potent cannabis strain that is 25 times stronger than resin sold a decade ago."

What? Were they in favor of allowing teenagers access to Cannabis? So now are they are in favor of jail terms for Cannabis users. I guess that will show them!
9 posted on 03/29/2007 3:52:35 PM PDT by jackieaxe (Unsourced reporting is not reporting but a lie or a manipulation)
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To: JTN
UN Drug Control Programme

I wonder if Holland, Afghanistan and Columbia are on this committee? BTW, is that how you spell program?
10 posted on 03/29/2007 3:57:22 PM PDT by jackieaxe (Unsourced reporting is not reporting but a lie or a manipulation)
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To: JTN

This thread needs popcorn..

and maybe twinkies..

and some ice cream...


11 posted on 03/29/2007 4:02:05 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: jackieaxe

There's a bunch of UN bureaucrats peddling a "crisis". That's a clue, people.


12 posted on 03/29/2007 4:02:22 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

It's real easy for them to advocate legalization when they know that rehab and other safety nets will never be taken away, despite their promises not to burden society with such expenses.

Drug users should make a pledge to die in the gutter if it comes to that, and never ask a judge or pester relatives for a second chance.

Easy pledge to make... those things will never happen.


13 posted on 03/29/2007 4:02:33 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: JTN
It's pretty easy to pick out people that are clueless about mj, such as the article that this author is quoting. "Skunk" is just a strain name. Nothing more. Nothing less.

"The Forensic Science Service says that in the early nineties cannabis would contain around 1% tetrahydrocannabidinol (THC), the mind-altering compound, but can now have up to 25%."

Just one of the flat out lies. 1% THC would only give you a raging headache. It takes at least 3% to create a buzz. 1% is called HEMP.

Another thing to remember that the drug warriors are clueless about: Potency is 99.9% GENETIC.

14 posted on 03/29/2007 4:06:58 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Smogger

"This thread needs popcorn.."

With garlic powder and lots of butter?


15 posted on 03/29/2007 4:07:21 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Names Ash Housewares

"Nearly all the potheads I have known have been eff ups in some way or another"

In college, we called them "pre-med".


16 posted on 03/29/2007 4:08:42 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: watchin
Wow. Imagine that. Libertarians on a pot thread.

Right! And on gun rights threads, and on fourth amendment threads, and on property rights threads, and on threads discussing the War on Some Fats, and on threads discussing our Founders and the Constitution...

17 posted on 03/29/2007 4:24:20 PM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: spanalot

and some ... Cap'n Crunch

Chips .. YES ... Chips ...


and ... uh ...


you wanna make a run to Taco Bell?


18 posted on 03/29/2007 4:25:29 PM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!! www.subgenius.com)
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To: jackieaxe

Well, that is how the originators of the language spell programme.


19 posted on 03/29/2007 4:29:06 PM PDT by Don W ("Well Done" is far better to hear than "Well Said". (Samuel Clemens))
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Nearly all the potheads I have known have been eff ups in some way or another. And selfish about their need for weed they nearly define themselves by it and not caring much about its impact on others.

Circular reasoning. Potheads by definition are f-ups who define themselves by it. The productive citizens who occasionally partake are not likely to share that fact with people they suspect will disapprove.

20 posted on 03/29/2007 4:29:28 PM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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