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To: chesty_puller

Is that above an NCO?


5 posted on 03/29/2007 3:10:52 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King

Yep


8 posted on 03/29/2007 3:11:28 PM PDT by chesty_puller (USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71 US Army 75-79 3d Inf Old Guard)
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To: Rodney King
yes, three steps above the highest NCO
9 posted on 03/29/2007 3:13:01 PM PDT by geo40xyz (218->121 democRAT's 'OWN DEFEAT' and blood of American soldiers in Iraq will be on their hands)
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To: Rodney King

Ask any CWO5 and he will tell you it is above a general. Most generals will agree.


10 posted on 03/29/2007 3:13:16 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Support your local EOD Detachment)
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To: Rodney King
Is that above an NCO?

He's about on par with a Major / Lt Colonel ... he just does not have a commision and is not in the officer chain of command.

Think of him as a Master Plumber, Master Electrician or master machinist.

21 posted on 03/29/2007 3:17:23 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Democrats in Republican Clothing ... DIRC ... They are the knives in the back of the GOP.)
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To: Rodney King

One of the smartest and best educated groups I ever met were all Warrant Officers in the CID. They have PHDs on staff.


33 posted on 03/29/2007 3:25:12 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Rodney King
One idea behind Warrant officers is that some jobs take a lot of technical skill. If you train an enlisted person to do the job, they have "up or out" rules, and may quit for a better paying job in the private sector, so you lose the member, and have to train a replacement.

If you train a commissioned officer to job, they have "up or out" rules and are kicked out if they don't get promoted. But they don't get promoted if they don't go to different schools, and don't hold several jobs demonstrating wide competence. Either way, the Army loses the member from the technical slot, and has to train a replacement. Warrant Officers, WO1-WO5, are supposed to have the perks on an officer, but still be able to just do their job and not worry getting their ticket punched by holding a new position every 18 months.

People who should be Warrant officers, but aren't, for historical reasons, are JAGs, Chaplains and Doctors.

36 posted on 03/29/2007 3:25:31 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Rodney King

Yes.

It's O-level pay, w/out being in the command structure.

Most helo pilots (myself included) start of as either LT or WO, and it's really personal choice more than anything.


43 posted on 03/29/2007 3:33:50 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Rodney King

I watched a full bird get brow beat pretty hard by a CWO4 when I was in the Marine Corps. It was fun to watch.


44 posted on 03/29/2007 3:36:42 PM PDT by Gum Shoe
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To: Rodney King
Check out:

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/pay/bl05warrantsalary.htm

They don't do too bad.

82 posted on 03/29/2007 4:08:59 PM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (vobns.blogspot.com)
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To: Rodney King
"Is that above an NCO?"

Rodney,

The warrant grades are considered by some to be the sweetest spot in the Army. The warrant grades, W-1 thru W-4, are indeed between the enlisted and commissioned ranks. However, I believe they have most of the privelages of commissioned officers. As an enlisted man, I seem to recall having to salute them. They are addressed as "Mr." as I recall. They are typically utilized for technical or specialized skills and is a means of providing recognition and compensation for these skills. I am not sure as it has been a long time since I was in the army but I seem to recall that a W-4 is compensated about the same as a major. I am sure that there is an FR'er out there with the definitive scoop.

124 posted on 03/29/2007 5:31:57 PM PDT by snoringbear
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Yes, Rodney. They made him a Chief Warrant Officer because they ran out of enlisted ranks to give him. He bent the needle on the enlisted ranks and then the needle fell off, so to speak.

I'm sure that man was an institution wherever he went.

147 posted on 03/29/2007 6:17:15 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Rodney King

Is that above an NCO?


Yes. It is between enlisted and regular officers.


166 posted on 03/30/2007 3:20:12 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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