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Couple: Hotel Wouldn't Rent to Us Because We're Gay
WLTX.com ^ | 3/29/2007 12:16:38 PM | N/A

Posted on 03/29/2007 1:36:10 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

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To: Jet Jaguar
Pickel and Darren Black Bear have been in a committed relationship.

Aha!

A pickle used on a black bear!

Sounds like bestiality to me.

61 posted on 03/29/2007 4:34:06 PM PDT by mborman (No Rudys, please!)
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To: Zman51
Thanks, Z-Man. Your comments are about as clear as mud and make as much sense as your misspelled words.

You have to be a frustrated attorney.

62 posted on 03/29/2007 4:38:10 PM PDT by mborman (No Rudys, please!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Maybe they don't want to have to wash the biohazard scene and sheets after these pirates get done with bidness.


63 posted on 03/29/2007 4:46:46 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: M203M4
There is an important difference between civil rights and the criminalization of personal morality.

Race, color, gender, and disability are off limits (as indicators themselves, not in any correlative or derived senses...). National origin too (but not citizenship). This is the domain of civil rights.

Discrimination based upon ANY action should be fair game. That would include creed...

The problem with your proposal here is that much of the impetus for civil rights law--indeed a basis for the settling and founding of America itself, was freedom of religion. Longtime endemic persecution of Jews (banning ownership by Jews is in many, many deeds, for property titles over 60 years old), or banning Roman Catholic Irish, or Mormons, etc--all of this was a part of pre-civil-rights-law America.

I think it is a very good thing that secular businesses are not allowed to discriminate against religion. Allow "Discrimination based upon ANY action" including "creed", and a lot of evangelical Christians would get fired, as the anti-religious discrimination laws are the only ones that protect them now (if imperfectly) from the homosexual/and liberal atheistic lobby.

We definitely need to keep legal protections prohibiting discrimination based on creed, even though, the increasing number of members of a violent ideology/theocracy/quasi-religion (called ROP here in FReeperland) does make that a challenge. Keeping the current federal civil-rights standards will work--if we can, as conservatives hold back the forces wanting to add (who've already done so on local and state levels) "sexual orientation" to the list. Adding that, functionally nullifies freedom of religion.

If you believe strongly enough in "freedom of association" than logically there should be no discrimination laws at all, be it about non-behavioral or behavioral characteristics.

64 posted on 03/29/2007 5:10:27 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: Zman51

Unfortunately any state or local laws against sodomy have already been rendered unenforceable by the US Supreme Court decision Lawrence vs. Texas(2001 ?). The NC and SC laws just haven't been enforced (as sodomy laws historically rarely have)...If authorities tried, they would immediately have a federal lawsuit filed by the ACLU--which a Federal court would probably not even hear (rendering summary judgement)--as the laws are currently effectively null and void.


65 posted on 03/29/2007 5:19:30 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: Junior

Owner in another article stated, quote, "I ain't cleanin' no fudge of mah sheets".


66 posted on 03/29/2007 5:20:47 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: AnalogReigns

If their religion prevents them from touching pork, working on Saturday or Sunday, refusing to serve or transport booze, not giving lap dances, dispense condoms, etc etc etc etc etc, then the employer offering a position for which such activities are required should be able to not hire them, or outright terminate them when the refusal to perform the necessary job function becomes evident (ie if initially withheld to obtain the position). Creed should not be used a civil rights shield in such regards. Freedom of religion, not freedom from religion (a distinction carrying weight in both directions - the right of person A to practice their religion does not, or at least should not, impose upon person B the requirement to accommodate it). Sorry that this was not clear above.


67 posted on 03/29/2007 5:29:04 PM PDT by M203M4 (Moral and economic relativity are cancers on liberty.)
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To: tired1
I believe the appropriate terms are - pitcher or catcher.

Beat me to it.

68 posted on 03/29/2007 6:57:55 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (QMC(SW) Ret.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

"For the past two and a half years, Pickel and Darren Black Bear have been in a committed relationship"

I'm guessing that when Black Bear is in a Pickel, he becomes Brown Bear. Ick.....


69 posted on 03/29/2007 7:02:47 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Pickle and Black Bear don't sound very tolerant. It seems to be human nature, perhaps even simple logic, that some things are tolerated and some things are not. Maybe it was better when we we were intolerant of sexual deviancy and these guys had to worry about the hotel owner calling the cops.
70 posted on 03/29/2007 7:08:48 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Reagan defeated the Soviet Union despite the Democratic party. We could use another miracle.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Hotels in South Carolina got into trouble for treating guests during the Black Bike Week a lot worse than those during the "White" Bike Week. Much higher deposits, requiring people to wear wristbands to get into the hotels, etc. that strangely weren't required the other time.

I think they're going out of their way to say that while they reserve the right to not rent to gay people, they don't approve of that kind of discrimination.


71 posted on 03/29/2007 7:18:55 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: Tokra

I imagine they were trying to make a point. And why be subtle? They have gay pride. Like the flying Imams, they would probably like to push the envelop.


72 posted on 03/29/2007 7:22:16 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Reagan defeated the Soviet Union despite the Democratic party. We could use another miracle.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Guess they'll have to play "hide the Pickel" somewhere else.


73 posted on 03/29/2007 7:28:56 PM PDT by Doohickey (Rudolph Giuliani: metro-American)
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74 posted on 03/29/2007 7:37:08 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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75 posted on 03/29/2007 7:41:32 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I think they wouldn't rent to them because they claim to be a couple, when they're not - they're homos.


76 posted on 03/29/2007 7:42:56 PM PDT by baubau (BOYCOTT businesses that hire 3rd world illegal aliens.)
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To: Zman51
"there are several communities throughout North and South Carolina that in order to live in the housing development you not only must be a Christian but you must attend the communities church and if you don't you are required to move."

Isn't that other wise known as a "cult"? lol

77 posted on 03/29/2007 7:46:33 PM PDT by KoRn (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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later pingout.


78 posted on 03/29/2007 7:49:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

To you honeymooners: next time why not just check in at the Pork & Pooder Inn, you will be more than welcome!


79 posted on 03/29/2007 7:51:47 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Jet Jaguar

"Pickel and Black Bear"... you can't make this stuff up.


80 posted on 03/29/2007 7:52:11 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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