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To: DPMD
"But I'm just wondering why it would be so unreasonable to think that something in which the Clinton administration played a primary role would not be tainted?"

In this case, the percentage of players involved in the accident investigation that weren't members of the Clinton administration far outweigh those who were. Unless you believe TWA, Boeing, the Airline Pilots Association, the United States Navy, the FAA, and all the longterm (decades long in many cases) employees of those organizations involved in the years long investigation of TWA800 were all part of a cover up, it is not realistic to believe the investigation of TWA 800 was a Clinton administration cover up. You would also have to believe that the hundreds of people involved, most of whom had nothing to do with the Clinton administration have been able to keep their mouths shut for over a decade.

This wasn't a suspicious suicide. This was a MAJOR aircraft incident that killed hundreds and involved the work of thousands to investigate. Clinton couldn't even hide a blow job from an intern in his own office. There's no way he could hush up some conspiracy involving TWA 800.

154 posted on 03/30/2007 6:49:10 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke
Clinton couldn't even hide a blow job from an intern in his own office.

There you go with another assumption!

Maybe the Slickster wanted everyone to be talking about the blow job instead of that bullet hole in Ron Brown's head? You probably think he couldn't control talk about "Whitewater" either. But "Whitewater" was a 20 year-old, five figure land deal; and he had the mass media all atwitter about that while Clinton, as President, was accepting seven figure bribes from the Communist Chinese.

Maybe you'll suggest I read the Starr Report now?

ML/NJ

156 posted on 03/31/2007 5:43:44 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Rokke

Yours has sometimes been a fairly effective argument against the existence of a conspiracy / coverup. I’ve subscribed to it myself. But like every argument, it must fit the specific case, and not be employed as proof that a conspiracy doesn’t exist. Saying it can’t happen doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

The fewer people who have access to all - ALL - the information, the greater is the chance that the coverup will succeed. They can be effectively kept in line through personal gain or threats. How many people in TWA800 had access too all of the information? Certainly not all those you cite in your argument as being potential conspirators. You don’t serve your argument well by inflating the number of people who are involved. For example, citing TWA, Boeing, the APA as those who must be active conspirators. Nobody in any of those bodies had access to everything collected and routed to the central controlling cadre of the investigation. APA? What did they know? A little. Parts. Boeing? Ditto. The percentage of information they had makes them fringe players.

As for your contention that the FBI, the Navy and the FAA were not part of the Clinton administration, it’s naïve to say so. Just to illustrate, the FBI’s conviction rate dropped to about 24% during the Clinton years. Dropped. That means it was higher before then. I also know firsthand that they even discounted information regarding the use of Afghanistan for Al Qaeda training camps. It’s no coincidence that this reflected the Clinton attitude toward laws, law enforcement, and intelligence. How could a wall exist between CIA and FBI with all of those thousands of employees if no conspiracy could exist? The control extends to just a very few people who, delegated the authority, exert the necessary power and exclusivity of information to control agencies. Dissenters and leakers always appear. But they don’t have the whole story, and are easily dismissed as whackos, or intimidated.

You’ll have to be more specific to convince folks that the report doesn’t stink. Just answer a few questions: Why were so many witness accounts that were contrary to the party line report discounted, not included in the report, and the people threatened with arrest if they persisted in their accounts? Why weren’t all possibilities addressed in the report? Or were they? Why should so much surrounding the investigation and report remain secret?

We’ll have to agree to disagree. Humans are corruptible. Coverups begin with liars, and they can succeed.


161 posted on 03/31/2007 11:04:49 AM PDT by DPMD (dpmd)
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