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Dr. James Dobson: Fred Thompson 'Not a Christian'
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/3/28/151351.shtml?s=al&promo_code=3058-1 ^ | 28 March 2007 | http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/3/28/151351.shtml?s=al&promo_code=3058-1

Posted on 03/29/2007 3:35:34 AM PDT by davidosborne

"Everyone knows he’s conservative and has come out strongly for the things that the pro-family movement stands for,” Dobson – considered the most politically powerful evangelical figure in the U.S. – said in a phone call to Dan Gilgoff, senior editor at U.S. News & World Report.

"[But] I don’t think he’s a Christian. At least that’s my impression.”

Thompson’s spokesman Mark Corallo took issue with the statement.

"Thompson is indeed a Christian,” he said. "He was baptized into the Church of Christ.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 2008; dobson; duncanhunter; election2008; focus; focusonthefamily; fred; fredthompson; jamesdobson; thompson
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To: davidosborne

Good grief. Go to the Bible and look

If one believes in Jesus Christ and is baptised - they are a Christian - pure and simple.

They do not need Mr. Dobson to verify their status, they do not need criteria - they have followed Jesus' instructions to be a Christian and therefore they are one - no matter what Mr. Dobson thinks about it.

I think this is a ridiculous argument - Mr. Dobson stepped over the line in putting himself in the position of being a judge and making comments about someone's christianity without full knowledge. He stepped over the line.

Now, no matter of throwing the blame on Mr. Thompson's status as a Christian will change where the start of this nonsense came from.

Even if Mr. Thompson had turned against God and left the church - it is not the purview of Mr. Dobson to go about informing voters of his status.


501 posted on 03/31/2007 11:23:53 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: davidosborne

LOL! And the beat goes on!


502 posted on 03/31/2007 11:28:32 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: ClancyJ

It appears to me that it is only Dr. Dobson's "critics" who claim that Mr. Dobson is the "official" decider of who IS or IS NOT a Christian.... Mr. Dobson has never made this claim.... nor have I... it is ONE MAN's opinion.. get over it... I look forward to Mr. Thompson's "statement" on this matter if he decides to make one.. if he does not thats fine too... but don't be surprised if his lack of a statement is taken as a sign of weakness by myself and others.. the only folks making such a "big deal" over this are Dr. Dobson's critics.. who want the world to believe that Dr. Dobson's claims to be the official "True Christian" meter.... which he is not.. and never claimed to be....


503 posted on 03/31/2007 12:07:11 PM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: davidosborne

I feel sure that Thompson will probably not mention it since he has kept his religious view private during his life.

There is nothing wrong with that. We all have worked on jobs and kept religion out of the mix. That did not mean we were not Christians - it meant we respected the freedom to worship as people wanted and did not want to run people away from the church by hounding them about their beliefs.

I don't expect him to suddenly bring out religion and try to lure votes his way based on his religious beliefs.


504 posted on 03/31/2007 1:45:24 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: davidosborne
I wasn't aware that Dobson spoke for the Lord, or that Dobson had direct communication with Christ Jesus and knew...knew for a fact who is and who is not a true believer.

The problem with "evangelicals" (such as Dobson) is their arrogance of piety and their ignorance of God. Blind followers of these hucksters will destroy the conservative, pro-family, pro-liberty party the Republicans strive to become.

I'd wait for a mea culpa from Dobson, but I doubt he's intelligent enough or humble enough to issue one.

505 posted on 03/31/2007 1:51:57 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Thumper1960

This story is already dead. Dobson already clarified.

The only people pushing the story are the Rudy-bots who fear a Thompson run. (odd to fear only POTENTIAL and unannounced candidate)


506 posted on 03/31/2007 1:56:51 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: davidosborne
the way Fred Thompson responds to this "hoopla"..... if he decides to respond at all.... says more about his character than what Dr. Dobson says or anyone else says for that matter..

Why the hell should Thompson respond to SpongeDob at all? Newt responded to SpongeDob and ended up just humiliating himself.

507 posted on 03/31/2007 5:15:07 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: davidosborne
but don't be surprised if his lack of a statement is taken as a sign of weakness by myself and others

I take it as a sign of weakness if one feels he has to respond to SpongeDob.

508 posted on 03/31/2007 5:17:01 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Khepri

*supposedly said*? You don't know? Why don't you try reading the Gospels yourself? Then you'll see all the parts where Jesus addresses people's behavior.


509 posted on 03/31/2007 6:02:28 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Ahhh.. I see so your approach is to ignore the perverbial elephant in the room.. I suppose that is an option... I guess what some perceive as a sign of "weakness" others will perceive as a sign "strength of convictions/honesty etc..etc.." You have the right to your own opinion, but not your own facts... I suppose we can continue go around in circles on this "non-issue".. or we can go on to something else.. in the end it will be interesting to see which "path" Fred Thompson takes on this.... at this point I still support a Hunter/Thompson ticket but how Mr. Thompson responds/or doesn't respond to this IS important to me.... and could cause myself and others some concern....... I have spent enough/too much time on this matter.. I will give you the last word my FRiend... I am OUT


510 posted on 03/31/2007 10:11:20 PM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: davidosborne

I'm sure Thompson is quaking in his boots over what you or SpongeDob think of him. Yeah, let us all have an Auto de Fe for Thompson. Until he answers your questions to your and SpongeDob's exact satisfaction, there will always be a cloud over him.


511 posted on 04/01/2007 12:40:36 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: PJ-Comix

Okay I said that was going to be my last word, but I can't let that comment stand... I don't care HOW he answers any quetsion, and certainly do not want any question answered to my "exact satisfaction"..... but I do think it would do him well to answer any question(s) honestly.. that is all I care about...... The only "cloud" that persists is an UNANSWERED question, I have no "Christian" litmus test for any candidate for any public office.. but I do have an "honesty" litmus test, and I hope you do as well... In other words I WILL support a conservative atheist/agnostic who says he is an atheist/agnostic over a person who claims to be a "Christian" in an effort to pander to other Christians... as it stands right now I don't know where Mr. Thompson is on the issue, but I am interested to know.. The perverbial ball is in HIS court not mine or Dr. Dobson's


512 posted on 04/01/2007 3:44:12 AM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: davidosborne
Dobson is a man who says he is against Abortion but if a pro abortion judge contributes to Dobson's enterprise Dobson will leave the judge alone. If a pro-life Judge doesn't donate he gets no support from Dobson. This is all well documented on Bob Enyarts website, http://www.enyart.com/

Dobson is a fake he used conservative Christan to line his pockets, he worships the all might dallor not the all might GOD.

513 posted on 04/01/2007 4:00:44 AM PDT by RMrattlesnake
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To: AmericaUnited
Dobson clarified what he meant by "Christian" and it's not what you and many are hyperventilating over.

I can see where it would seem like hyperventilating to a mouth-breather...LMAO

Face, he stuck his foot in his mouth.

It goes something like this, "I mispoke, I'm sorry"....

Apparently beneath Mr. Dobson?....

514 posted on 04/01/2007 3:25:02 PM PDT by Khepri (Sure, we want to go home. The shortest way home is through Damascus and Teheran.)
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To: Theodore R.
It says "by their fruit you will know them."

Your point?

515 posted on 04/01/2007 3:26:53 PM PDT by Khepri (Sure, we want to go home. The shortest way home is through Damascus and Teheran.)
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To: metmom
*supposedly said*? You don't know? Why don't you try reading the Gospels yourself? Then you'll see all the parts where Jesus addresses people's behavior.

Let's suffice it to say I do not subscribe to the doctrine of biblical infallability...

516 posted on 04/01/2007 3:31:09 PM PDT by Khepri (Sure, we want to go home. The shortest way home is through Damascus and Teheran.)
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To: Khepri

Without biblical infallibility, there is no TRUTH, only opinion.


517 posted on 04/01/2007 7:56:48 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: davidosborne

Dr. Dobson knows better than to sit himself in the seat of judgement...
At least he SHOULD...


518 posted on 04/02/2007 12:21:51 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: JennieOsborne; politicallyincarrect; /\XABN584; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; ...
Response to my private e-mail from Focus on the Family on behalf of Dr. Dobson..

Response (Amy Campbell) 04/02/2007 02:49 PM
Thanks, David, for your e-mail.

We welcome the opportunity to reply to your comments regarding Dr. Dobson’s remarks that were first reported in Dan Gilgoff’s online article titled “Dobson Offers Insight on 2008 Republican Hopefuls: Focus on the Family Founder Snubs Thompson, Praises Gingrich” (_U.S. News & World Report_, March 28, 2007). At the outset, it’s important to note that this headline is an outright mischaracterization of the views Dr. Dobson expressed. His words weren’t intended as a disparagement of Senator Fred Thompson.

In fact, we can assure you that Dr. Dobson appreciates Senator Thompson’s solid, pro-family voting record and his position that _Roe v. Wade_ was wrongly decided. In his conversation with Mr. Gilgoff, Dr. Dobson, speaking as a private citizen, was attempting to highlight that to the best of his knowledge, Senator Thompson hadn’t clearly communicated his religious faith, and many evangelical Christians might find this a barrier to supporting him. Dr. Dobson told Mr. Gilgoff that he had never met Senator Thompson and wasn’t certain that his understanding of the former Senator’s religious convictions was accurate. Unfortunately, these qualifiers weren’t reported by Mr. Gilgoff. We were, however, pleased to learn from his spokesperson that Senator Thompson professes to be a believer.

Also, it may be of interest to know that Dr. Dobson received a cordial e-mail from Senator Thompson saying that he was surprised initially upon reading the article by Mr. Gilgoff, but then concluded that Dr. Dobson’s remarks had been grossly misrepresented. He urged Dr. Dobson to dismiss the matter and added that he intended to do the same.

In conclusion, let us caution you not to believe what you read about Dr. Dobson in the secular media today. Never in the 30-year history of Focus on the Family has there been more misreporting and outright distortion of his beliefs and teachings. It is apparent that those who represent a liberal worldview seek to marginalize him and confuse our friends. If you ever have a question concerning what you read about Dr. Dobson or our organization, please do contact us for clarification. The chances are you have been misinformed.

Again, thanks for writing. Please pray for Dr. Dobson and this ministry in the days ahead. Grace and peace to you!

Amy Campbell
Focus on the Family Action

519 posted on 04/03/2007 5:16:18 PM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: davidosborne

how does dobson define Christian?


520 posted on 04/03/2007 5:22:55 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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