Posted on 03/27/2007 2:44:41 PM PDT by blam
Peru: Bandurria may rival Caral as oldest citadel in Americas
Bandurria's circular ceremonial center. © Andina
(LIP-jl) -- A team of specialists headed by archaeologist Alejandro Chu has informed that structures found in Bandurria may be as old as structures found in Caral, Peru, deemed as the oldest citadel in the Americas.
Located north of Lima, near the city of Huacho, the Bandurria archaeological center has been found to have similar structures as those found in Caral. Among the similarities are a circular plaza made with circular borders, and a ceremonial center made of clay, all in an asymmetrical style.
According to Andina News Agency, the age of these structures may go back as much as 4,500 years.
The structures posses items that come from a time that has not been studied profoundly in the Americas. Among the items found at the site is a set of villager's clothing, which scientists say may help shed light on the process of a people who evolved from a classless society into a civilization with hierarchies.
Another important artifact found at the site was a fish net made of cotton considered to be the oldest of its kind in America.
The site was recently discovered in 1970, thanks in large part to climatic changes that uncovered some of the structures. The archaeologist Rosa Fung was the first to study the site, which at the time was the home to a small group of settlers who have since relocated.
Another interesting article, thanks, Blam.
Caral, Peru: The Oldest Citadel In The Americas
(Maybe The oldest pyramids in the world too)
Mayafrieze. Earthquake, flood, volcano...(Fred Nerks)
For Archaeology Buffs: Caral Is A Chance To Begin At The Beginning
Do you have any information as to where that frieze was found or what time period it dates to?
LOL. I stole it from Fred.
From Publishers Weekly
The great pyramids of Egypt provide a wonderful glimpse of the artistry, skill and imagination of the ancient world. But pyramids can be found in India, China, Peru, Bolivia, Mexico and Ireland.
In this provocative book, geologist Schoch (noted for his work in redating the Sphinx, which was recounted in his Voices of the Rocks) wonders how so many diverse cultures built such similar structures with similar purposes.
Using geological, linguistic and geographical evidence, he contends that a protocivilization of pyramid-building peoples was driven out of its homeland, the Sundaland, which geologists believe connected Southeast Asia with Indonesia, by a rise in sea level caused by comet activity between 6000 and 4000 B.C.
Fleeing their homeland, these peoples took their knowledge of pyramid building with them into Sumeria, Mesopotamia, Egypt, China and Peru.
Schoch hypothesizes that the pyramids were built to reach into the skies and to penetrate the mystery of the heavens, source of catastrophe.
Schoch also asserts that the pyramids point to unity and symbolize the deep concerns shared by all humans.
Schoch builds his engrossing case on geological details of the pyramid sites he has examined around the world. In the end, however, even he admits his evidence of a Sundaland protocivilization is speculative.
As controversial as this book is bound to be, Schoch's evocation of the pyramids forcefully reminds us of their enduring power as monuments to the spirit of human creativity.
and I didn't keep a record of the source...I'll let you know if I find it again.
Okay, now what? LOL.
I dunno, cause that web page also does not give any information about its origins.
Secondly, here's a clue I picked up from an archaeology blogsite - we're not the only ones looking:
The orginal photographer who took this snap shot was Mayan scholar Teobert Maler, who died in 1917. It is said that he took it at an unknown site in the Yucatan.
finally, it seems the image was featured in a book once available through Amazon:
http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/22escapefromatlantis.html I'm Googling Teobert Maler now.
http://www.mesoweb.com/maler/bio.html
bio of Maler.
Bingo!
... He believed in the lost continent of Atlantis and spoke of having discovered, on the wall of a buried Maya chamber, a mural depicting the destruction of Atlantis, "a water scene with a volcano spouting fire and smoke, buildings falling into the water, people drowning," as he described it...
Hmmm. What a coincidence. I think Sundaland could be Atlantis.
I know, but do you have a frieze to go with that? LOL!
Thanks, fellas; very interesting, I think.
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"Although a large number of Maler's photographs and plans
of Maya ruins have already been published, one large body
of his work has lain for decades in the Ibero-Amerikanisches
Institut, Berlin, without attracting much attention. The
Institute's Hanns Prem is now preparing for publication
three volumes, titled Peninsula Yucatan, based on notebooks
of Maler's that contain about 400 manuscript pages and
photographs illustrating some 100 sites, many of them never
since visited by archaeologists. Additional unpublished
photographs, including many from Maler's first period in
Mexico, are in the collections of the Peabody Museum at
Harvard."
Yes. It's the same one as post #5. They brought the 'memory' with them when they migrated from Sundaland. Out in the pacific and SE Asia there are many stories/legends similar to those told in our Christian Bible, etc. For example, Cain and Abel are named Manup & Kulabob. See here.
"Chapter 16 -- Cain and Abel -- Shepherds or farmers? - Who was the hero, Cain or Abel? - Are Cain and Abel motifs related to the Adonis/Attis/Osiris type? - Sumerian parallels - An eastern origin of the two-brothers conflict - The two warring brothers in Maluku and Melanesia - Kulabob and Manup - Kulabob and Manup: the core story - Pale-skinned brothers from the West? - the start of the odyssey - Episode 1: Kilibob leaves Madang - Episode 2: leatherskins, trevally and kingfish - Episode 3: Mala's travels on Umboi - Episode 4: Ambogim - Episode 5: The tree of wealth and plenty - Episode 6: Namor's Ark - History or myth? - Two brothers in the Sepik- Basin? - Two brothers spread east to the Pacific Epilogue -- Filling in the gaps - The trail West - Problems with dates of migration - Some stories can be dated - Just what did the East teach the West?
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