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Webb Denies He Gave Aide Gun That Led to Arrest [Again, I'm not going to comment......]
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Posted on 03/27/2007 10:31:38 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Webb Denies He Gave Aide Gun That Led to Arrest

Tuesday , March 27, 2007

WASHINGTON — Virginia Sen. Jim Webb said Tuesday he did not give aide Phillip Thompson the gun that led to his arrest in a Senate office building. Webb did not say whether it was his gun.

Thompson is awaiting arraignment in D.C. Superior Court after being arrested Monday for trying to enter the Russell Senate Office Building, where Webb's office is located, carrying a loaded pistol and two fully loaded magazines.

The judge will determine whether Thompson, 45, will have to pay bail to get out of jail, and will set a date for a preliminary hearing. Thompson spent the night in a D.C. jail after U.S. Capitol Police determined Monday that he did not have a permit to carry a gun in Washington, D.C., where only law enforcement officials are allowed to carry handguns.

He is charged with carrying a pistol without a license and possession of an unregistered firearm and unregistered ammunition. According to the court docket, Monday was Thompson's birthday.

A senior Democratic aide said Monday evening that Thompson forgot that he had the weapon when he sent the senator's bag through the X-ray machine at the office building. The aide said Webb gave the bag that contained the gun to Thompson when the aide drove the senator to the airport.

Webb said he has been in New Orleans since Friday and returned Monday night. He denied that he gave the weapon to Thompson.

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To: VeniVidiVici

Irrespective whether he intentionally gave the gun to the aid, the fact is that it's illegal to even have a gun like that in your possession in DC, much less loaded.


Looks like Webb is going to be some inmate's "girlfriend."


61 posted on 03/27/2007 11:07:12 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Sub-Driver

I'll predict that Webb will lose his composure at some point and resort to a physical attack on some poor colleague, staffer, or media maggot. The latter being the most acceptable.


62 posted on 03/27/2007 11:07:13 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Osama's mama wears combat sandals.)
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To: WBL 1952

No but his aide might. Another story I saw on FR a while back was about C4 being left on a plane after some training exercise. Yes mistakes do happen.


63 posted on 03/27/2007 11:07:17 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Give the aide a lie detector test.
Give same test to Webb....

Get to the bottom this right now.


64 posted on 03/27/2007 11:07:40 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Quilla
However, I don't think Louisiana recognizes the concealed carry permits of many other states. We looked it up once prior to a visit and they have very limited reciprocity.

Au contraire, Quilla.

Louisiana Reciprocity


65 posted on 03/27/2007 11:07:52 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: OldGuard1

You: "Seriously -- have these people never heard of the second amendment?"

I am really not trying to argue for the sake of argument.
What I am trying to figure out is if people recognize ANY necessary limit on the Second Amendment. The second half of the Amendment reads "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", but how far does that right go?

Is there a right, which cannot be infringed by the Secret Service, to carry a concealed weapon directly into the presence of the President of the United States? Is there a right, which the Secret Service cannot infringe, to bring your sniper's rifle to the balcony of Congress during the State of the Union Address? Is there a right for anybody who walks in off the street to carry a concealed handgun into the gallery of the Supreme Court?

Do you have the right to have a nuclear weapon in your basement and your own collection of Stinger Missiles?

What is the limit of the right, such that restricting possession of certain weapons in certain places is not an infringement of the Second Amendment, because you had no right to keep and bear arms in THAT place or of THAT nature in the first place.

Or is there an absolute and unlimited right for anybody (the Constitution does not contain a limitation that would allow the restriction of armament ownership by former convicted felons or dangerous people) to have your own nuclear arsenal and to carry your own firearms right into the White House on a visit?

Is the Constitution really a suicide pact?


66 posted on 03/27/2007 11:08:38 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: Vicomte13
let everyone carry one then you can have mutually supporting defense.
67 posted on 03/27/2007 11:08:50 AM PDT by lag along
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
The evil gun jumped into the bag by itself.

No doubt that the evil gun was driven to the office by an evil SUV.

68 posted on 03/27/2007 11:09:21 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel makes Joe Biden look like a statesman!)
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To: beltfed308; P8riot; Gabz; iceskater; ReagansRaiders; Flora McDonald
I think the mistake is grabbing the wrong briefcase or bag while the senator was parking the car from an earlier thread.

The mistake was Webb's not Thompson's.

From the Virginia State Police website: Based on the statute and decisions rendered by the Supreme Court, a weapon is considered to be concealed at any time it is placed in a location as to be within reach of the person, without the person being required to make an overt act to retrieve such weapon, when such weapon is hidden from common observation. Placing a weapon under the seat, on the seat hidden from common observation, or at any location from which the weapon can readily be retrieved is considered to be concealed. A person carrying a weapon in the unlocked glove compartment of an automobile, if the person does not have a permit or otherwise fall within any statutory exemption, is a violation of § 18.2-308(A), unless some particular fact or circumstance renders the weapon inaccessible.

I'm no expert on gun laws. But it seems to me that Webb may have violated his permit by just putting the gun in the bag. That seems less "readily retrievable" than a glove compartment.

69 posted on 03/27/2007 11:09:42 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.virginiaisforrudy.com * http://wardsmythe.com * http://www.rudyblogs.com)
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To: P8riot; Corin Stormhands

If he had, then we would have to impose the death penalty.
Even Tim Kaine would agree with that. ;)


70 posted on 03/27/2007 11:10:14 AM PDT by iceskater
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To: Sub-Driver

Typical


71 posted on 03/27/2007 11:10:41 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Muzzle_em
I've got a feeling the 4473 is "missing" by now.

Shops are required to keep them forever. Of course he could have gotten the firearm in a private transaction.

72 posted on 03/27/2007 11:11:30 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: lag along

Let everyone carry his own nuclear weapon?

Every year, there are a few hundred murder suicides in the United States. 100 cities a year. BOOM!

Is the Constitution a suicide pact?


73 posted on 03/27/2007 11:12:34 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: VRWCmember
Your membership in the VRWC is hereby revoked.

Based on your not knowing who James Webb is, and not knowing that the VRWC actually planted this weapon in the bag.

74 posted on 03/27/2007 11:12:52 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rodgers)
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To: NorthFlaRebel
Otherwise, you'd have a quote from the security saying "Thompson indicated that Webb told him we'd let him through".

Sorry but I disagree. As soon as the cops pounced on him Thompson would know he screwed-up and the LAST thing he'd do is rat out his boss about "misinforming him".

75 posted on 03/27/2007 11:13:57 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (?El proletariado del mundo, une! - Xuygo Chavez)
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To: Ben Hecks

That ain't a limb...that's a knob.


76 posted on 03/27/2007 11:14:07 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rodgers)
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To: Vicomte13
In regards to nuclear weapons I think the fact that they are indiscriminate weapons capable of massive destruction makes them being kept solely under govt control.
77 posted on 03/27/2007 11:15:52 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
I'm no expert on gun laws. But it seems to me that Webb may have violated his permit by just putting the gun in the bag. That seems less "readily retrievable" than a glove compartment.

Corin,

As much as it pains me to say so, Webb did not violate his permit by putting the gun in a bag. As long as the bag (containing the pistol) was in his possession and he held a valid permit he (and Thompson if he held one too) would be OK, IN VIRGINIA that is. But since this was in D.C., Virginia law does not apply.

78 posted on 03/27/2007 11:16:43 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Artemis Webb
Jim Webb apparently has zero honor

roger that. if I were a plastic army man, I'd have to say this:
favorite toy story sound file

79 posted on 03/27/2007 11:16:48 AM PDT by cschroe
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To: Vicomte13
So, you can have a nuclear weapon in your basement?

If you want a nuke and you can afford it, it's up to you. If you want a suface to air missile or a tank and you can afford it, it's up to you.

If you use them, against other human beings, that's against the law.

80 posted on 03/27/2007 11:16:59 AM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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