[Longinus]

It is the soldier, not the priest, who protects freedom of religion; the soldier, not the journalist, who protects freedom of speech. History teaches that a society that does not value its warriors will be destroyed by a society that does.

Jesus thinks otherwise.

A soldier can both protect and take your freedoms. Don't let a simplistic but enjoyable movie provide simplistic answers.

I hope people remember our founding fathers were distrustful of standing armies.

[MNJohnnie]

<>BA soldier can both protect and take your freedoms. Don't let a simplistic but enjoyable movie provide simplistic answers.

Don't let a simplistic notion of Christ confuse your grip on reality. Christ was a soldier too. He did not try to "understand" or "live with" evil. He opposed it. This is the fundamental flaw in the in the "pacifist" Christ manufactured by Modern Religion. It complete ignores the basic reality of good vrs evil and the need for good to actively OPPOSE evil, not coexist with it.

[webstersII]

"Don't let a simplistic but enjoyable movie provide simplistic answers."

Have you seen it?

[Parmy]

Jesus was emphasising another plane of existence.

It is true that when tyranny takes over the first thing that goes is the freedom of the press. And, the other freedoms subsequently disappear.

Remember, Jesus didn't abolish slavery, didn't abolish mass executions, or any of the things that are aborrant to today's society.

[subterfuge]

Jesus thinks otherwise.

Got any scripture to back that up?

Welcome to the forum.

[chesley]

This is true, but everything must be in context. When the context is that foreign enemies seek to destroy you, you need soldiers, not hippies.

[WLR]

A soldier can both protect and take your freedoms.

No he cannot...

Luke 3:14 (Whole Chapter)
And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages.

Just as many are called but few are chosen...

Many wear the trappings of a Soldier few are.

But Christ knows the difference and he said so long ago.

W

[RinaseaofDs]

God certainly didn't. He commanded the Jews to destroy entire cities.

Even Jesus brought a sword, even if what He was referring to was His tongue.

He promised division, not unity, turning mother against son, and father against daughter.

[jveritas]

What an idiotic statement. It is the US military who spread freedom and hope around the world, it is that US military that liberated hundreds of millions of people in the last 60 years, and has preserved our freedom, our way of life and the freedom of untold millions.

PS: Your time on FR will be short.

[chesley]

I don’t really think you can point to a scripture verse where Jesus de-valued the soldier.

Can you?

[Tallguy]

I hope people remember our founding fathers were distrustful of standing armies.

The Spartans were an early example of a professional, standing Army. They were a relatively small force. It must have been fantastically expensive for Sparta to support such a force.

[MacDorcha]

“Jesus thinks otherwise.” ??????

Citation needed!

“A soldier can both protect and take your freedoms. Don’t let a simplistic but enjoyable movie provide simplistic answers.
I hope people remember our founding fathers were distrustful of standing armies.”

Which is what Amendment 2 is for.

A soldier is someone who stands for their country in the face of bloodshed. We do not live in a police-state where the Army is also the Police. If it ever came to that fear, then you still have your Constitution.

Think before speaking on this forum.