Posted on 03/24/2007 10:22:40 PM PDT by kress
Iranian government source warns captive British soldiers will not be released until Britain issues formal apology to Iran. Iranian students call on government to demand release of former Undersecretary of Defense General Ali Reza Asgari in exchange for captives.
Chairman of Iran's Parliamentary Committee for National Security and Foreign Policy, Alaa Al-Din Boroujerdi, expressed his support on Saturday for the capture of 15 British soldiers by Iranian forces. Boroujerdi called the act "appropriate" and "legal" and said that it was a necessary step "so that foreign forces in Iran's neighboring countries will see that Iran is a powerful country in the region and that it will react firmly to any type of trespassing."
In an interview to the Iranian Student's News Agency, Boroujerdi said, "just as the relevant bodies reported, the British soldiers' entrance to Iranian waters was illegal, and is considered a violation of Iran's naval borders legally and internationally."
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oh oh.....this can't be good.
Join the British Army....
get Kidnapped and held hostage....
Watch how your Gutless Govt abandons you.
Coward British Parlament will let you rot in Iran.
Thank God we broke it off with those English "Wankers"
England is too far gone..Total Punk Bitches.
After I went to bed something about your remark just kept nagging at me so I figured I'd better try to put my thoughts into words. At first blush perhaps that defector was much more of an intelligence "get" than we thought, but I find it impossible to believe that the UK or anyone else would give him up to what would be a certain death, even for hostages (not to mention that I refuse to believe that the Brits have lost that much backbone).
So what else could be up, I was thinking.
Ever since the end of the Cold War we've been in the comfortable position that none of our adversaries could really attain any of their goals -- we showed in the Gulf War that we would chew up Russian tank divisions like dog food, the Chinese navy was no match for ours, and even Saddam's Million Man Army could only slow us down for four days. Even today, that mostly remains the case, though ongoing developments in the Chinese navy and air force are increasingly disturbing.
Indeed, the only way that our adversaries could really hope to gain anything they desire in the near term is if they acted in concert.
I presume that the Iranian army isn't any better than Saddam's and numbers not more than a million men, and inferiorly outfitted at that. However, a blitzkrieg into Iraq, plus a naval assault on the Gulf, PLUS a Chinese blitzkrieg against Taiwan, PLUS a North Korean blitzkrieg on Seoul, would play merry havoc with our ability to respond. Indeed we very well may wind up having to sacrifice quite a lot in order to guarantee victory elsewhere.
I think we need to be looking VERY closely on logistics -- not ours, but everyone else's. Attacks require food, ammunition, and fuel, at a minimum, but also all other manner of supplies and the vehicles to move them. We should be looking for transports of materiel, stockpiling, and especially at attempts to camouflage such buildups. We should be looking for logistical prepositioning, and also at personnel movements. We should be looking at naval tankers, and whether they're all taking on fuel loads. We should be looking at their use of rail and what they're moving (and when, and to where). If nothing "is up", then no worry, but if "something is up", then we should be looking for telltale signs rather than waiting for "something" to happen.
Here is the Headline that should be written..
"British Admiralty Orders British Marines and Sailors to Surrender to Iranian Gun Boats!!!"
Let someone tell me those British Marines and Sailors were not ordered to surrender.
Someone other that the On Site Commander made that call..
or the order was issued in advance.
Sure as God made little green apples.
W
..thank you for those few kind words.
What the hell kind of rant is that?
So what do you think would happen to those captured U.K. forces captured if the U.K. conducted a military strike? What did the U.S. do when the USS Peublo and crew were captured? Think about it?
Destroy your enemies!!
GOD-->> Deuteronomy 6?
I hope the brits (and us) destroy that litterbox. We owe them for 28 years of blood and hatred towards the US.
I like your idea!
Exactly!!
What nonsense.
I presume that the Iranian army isn't any better than Saddam's and numbers not more than a million men, and inferiorly outfitted at that. However, a blitzkrieg into Iraq, plus a naval assault on the Gulf, PLUS a Chinese blitzkrieg against Taiwan, PLUS a North Korean blitzkrieg on Seoul, would play merry havoc with our ability to respond. Indeed we very well may wind up having to sacrifice quite a lot in order to guarantee victory elsewhere.
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And we should make sure that our enemies understand that such a move would result in a nuclear counterstrike to stem the losses.
We made dang sure that the Soviets knew this... but nowadays, we go out of our way to reassure are sworn enemies that we have no intention of doing so.
All our leaders have simply become nothing more than Mohommed's whores.
Iran's not about to give up the hostages, period.
This is not then. This is not the same mindset in an enemy.
The problem with your idea is that nothing would happen. Oh, I understand your intent and agree with it. Sorta like a big man confronting a little man beating on a little woman. But chances are good that the sailors were in Iraqi territory and the Iranians found a target of opportunity for political gain.
I say the fleet gives them an ultimatum and if they don't comply, bomb the crap out of some nearby targets and stop. Issue the ultimatum again. This doesn't have to end up with bombs in Iran or a complete destruction of their armed forces. Just blow some of their assets up and sit and wait for them to counter.
They are already there. Don't we have two carriers in the area?
The kidnapped Brit sailors and marines would seriously enjoy hearing British jets overhead.
"The decision came just 24 hours after the crew of HMS Cornwall had been caught in the confusion of direct confrontation with Iranian vessels in the searing heat of the Gulf.
As the crew members were surrounded in their two rubber dinghies, the Cornwall's commander, Commodore Nick Lambert, frantically radioed back to his own top brass for instructions. "
The response to the inquiry, which had been immediately patched through to Ministry of Defence headquarters in Whitehall, was to hold fire.
The order to show restraint has been observed throughout the forces and the British government in the 48 hours since, but it is unclear how long both sides will be able to maintain control.
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=462812007
Along with those perfumed princes in the Elected Bodies of our Governments.
Fire 90% of the current crop of Generals and Admirals in the West.
The Commander on scene now needs to be added to the list.
Leadership, Leadership, Leadership
W
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