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Uproar Hits Fla. Confederate Flag Show
AJC ^ | March 17, 2007 | STEPHEN MAJORS

Posted on 03/17/2007 4:30:38 PM PDT by groanup

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — When artist John Sims sees the Confederate flag, he sees "visual terrorism," and a symbol of a racist past. When Robert Hurst sees the flag, he is filled with pride as the descendant of a soldier who fought for the South during the Civil War.

Their differences have flared into a war of words, catching a local museum in the middle.

An art exhibit by artist John Sims, entitled 'The Proper Way to Hang a Confederate Flag,' is show on display at the Mary Brogan Museum of Art and Science, Friday, March 16, 2007, in Tallahassee, Fla. The exhibit has sparked controversy with the local chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans and they have asked the museum to remove it.

Hurst walked into the Mary Brogan Museum of Art and Science this past week and saw an exhibit by Sims, including a Confederate flag hung from a noose on a 13-foot gallows in a display titled "The Proper Way to Hang a Confederate Flag."

Hurst asked the museum to remove the display, along with 13 other pieces by Sims.

The museum, however, announced Friday it is standing by Sims' work, on display since Feb. 26, because it wants to inspire dialogue in the community about a symbol that engenders a diversity of strong responses.

"There's a balance between the nature of the art that we show and the outcome that we seek, which is to promote dialogue and conversation, and have you maybe think of something in a slightly different way," said Chucha Barber, the museum's executive director.

Hurst, commander of the local Sons of Confederate Veterans chapter, said Friday he has lost respect for the museum, calling the display of Sims' work "offensive, objectionable and tasteless."

(Excerpt) Read more at ajc.com ...


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To: kittymyrib

I think he would have gotten onto a lot of trouble if he had done that ... and he would have deserved it.

He would have been locked up as an arsonist.

If you want to burn a flag, you should be the owner.


21 posted on 03/17/2007 7:00:30 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (I know where I have gone wrong, and I can cite it, chapter and verse.)
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To: afnamvet; StoneWall Brigade; L98Fiero; RFEngineer; DarthDilbert; James Ewell Brown Stuart; ...
Dixie Ping!

Thanks groanup (great tag line)

22 posted on 03/17/2007 8:01:45 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: groanup
Looks like Florida needs to levy some charges against Sims.

From the Florida state Code:

256.10 Mutilation of or disrespect for Confederate flags or replicas.--No person shall publicly mutilate, deface, defile, defy, trample upon, or by word or act cast contempt upon the flags of the Confederacy, or replicas thereof, for crass or commercial purposes; provided however nothing contained herein shall be construed to prevent or prohibit the use of such flags for decorative or patriotic purposes.
And according to Fl. Statute 876.52, flag desecration is a 1st degree misdemeanor, up to $1,000 fine.
23 posted on 03/17/2007 8:06:58 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: groanup

He should have torn the display down himself.

Getting to the point you're going to have to defend your heritage and culture with force.


24 posted on 03/17/2007 8:38:02 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: trumandogz
Grin, who was it that said something like "I disagree with what you say, sir. But I will defend to the death your right to say it!" ???

I would never abuse anyone's flag and call it "art"... They (galleries/museums/etc.) are more than welcome to display such "art"... However, they must live with the consequences of the choices they make. I find such "art" objectionable, and would refrain from patronizing said gallery for a year or more as my own personal form of expression. ;-)

25 posted on 03/17/2007 8:44:15 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: groanup

I wonder what kind of art they would deem a man hanging by his phallus with a pink ribbon shown in great agony and entitled Immoral. Or two women kissing in a bottle of urine called Fitting environment. Let us say a very good artist portrayed these and other scenes like them and actually found a gallery willing to display them.
Would there be a national furor? You bet!
Would Rosie, Ellen and homosexual organizations get involved? You bet!
Would the ACLU sue the artist for a hate crime? You bet!
Would the gallery cave and take it down? You better believe it!

This is the era of the history robbers. Only PC history need apply whether in academia, the arts, or the fourth estate.


vaudine


26 posted on 03/17/2007 9:03:37 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: since 1854
All Confederates were Democrats.

This obviously posted by someone who ignorantly equates the politics of the 1860's with that of today. This is kind of like saying that we should have voted for Lowell Weicker because he was a "Republican." Please don't post such ignorant crap!!

27 posted on 03/17/2007 10:19:58 PM PDT by CurlyBill (Democrats: Weak on defense, soft on crime, tough on your wallet)
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To: since 1854

By dragging that horrible flag out continually, the southern conservatives are pounding yet another nail in the coffin of conservatism.


28 posted on 03/18/2007 3:15:36 AM PDT by tkathy
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To: kittymyrib

I do not think Commander Hurst wants to be convicted of Arson.



However, if you want an Arson Wrap you can drive down to Florida and set the place on fire.


29 posted on 03/18/2007 5:27:49 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Caipirabob
Hardly, since by nature they resisted tyrannical Federal oppression.

By launching a rebellion to protect an institution built on oppressing others?

30 posted on 03/18/2007 5:29:52 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: groanup

31 posted on 03/18/2007 5:31:11 AM PDT by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: stainlessbanner
...for crass or commercial purposes...

But Stainless, this isn't crass OR commercial. This is Art!!!

32 posted on 03/18/2007 5:33:13 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: stainlessbanner

>>Looks like Florida needs to levy some charges against Sims.

From the Florida state Code:

256.10 Mutilation of or disrespect for Confederate flags or replicas.--No person shall publicly mutilate, deface, defile, defy, trample upon, or by word or act cast contempt upon the flags of the Confederacy, or replicas thereof, for crass or commercial purposes; provided however nothing contained herein shall be construed to prevent or prohibit the use of such flags for decorative or patriotic purposes.

And according to Fl. Statute 876.52, flag desecration is a 1st degree misdemeanor, up to $1,000 fine.<<

If burning the American flag is protected speech then certainly other flags should not be given more protection.

I doubt that law is constitutional.


33 posted on 03/18/2007 5:35:46 AM PDT by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
The only consequences that the Mary Brogan Museum of Art will face is dealing with all the Free Publicity and that Commander Hurst has given to the museum.

Hopefully, the Mary Brogan Museum of Art will find good uses for the money that they will make off this one exhibit.
34 posted on 03/18/2007 5:37:11 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: kittymyrib
Mr. Hurst should have taken out his lighter and set fire to the offensive art work, thus exercising his own freedom of expression. The Supreme Court has ruled that torching the US flag is such expression, so the Confederate flag would certainly be fair game.

Only if it belongs to you.

35 posted on 03/18/2007 5:37:31 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: tkathy

You truly are clueless!


36 posted on 03/18/2007 5:38:11 AM PDT by razorbak
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To: kittymyrib

>>Mr. Hurst should have taken out his lighter and set fire to the offensive art work, thus exercising his own freedom of expression. The Supreme Court has ruled that torching the US flag is such expression, so the Confederate flag would certainly be fair game.<<

They didn't rule that you have a right to go into a museum and burn an American flag that doesn't belong to you.


37 posted on 03/18/2007 5:39:46 AM PDT by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: tkathy
By dragging that horrible flag out continually, the southern conservatives are pounding yet another nail in the coffin of conservatism.

No, that's been done by 40-50 years of Republican 'conservatism' thank you and 'true conservatives' advocating morality legislation at the national level to fit their agenda. Republicans have killed the ideal of limited government on this continent. Getting a Republican elected to office is not by definition a sign of conservatism. The lot sitting in Washington are no more 'conservative' than their Democratic counterparts

38 posted on 03/18/2007 5:42:27 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Getting to the point you're going to have to defend your heritage and culture with force.

Sure, then we could have blacks tearing down art exhibits that they feel offend their culture, as could Jews and Christians.

As a Texan, I could destroy someone's work of art that offends my heritage.

Before you know it there would be thousands of groups running around destroying private property simply based on their being offended.

Thus, we would all be like Radical Muslims.

Great Idea, you have there!

39 posted on 03/18/2007 5:45:22 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: vaudine

Would the artist become rich and famous? You bet!

No such thing as bad publicity. Robert Mapplethorpe spent years shooting flowers and rock stars, but it wasn't until he photographed a guy with a bull whip in his butt that he became the most famous photographer in America, after (maybe) Ansel Adams.

Outrage is good for business.


40 posted on 03/18/2007 5:46:16 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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