Posted on 03/17/2007 1:44:41 PM PDT by rface
LOL! Actually I have known many nice bikers. Some are A-holes, but then again I have met many a guy in a suit that is as well.
True story. When I was at JPL, we had a biker who used to work there. Rode a chopped Harley, beard down to his tummy (which overflowed his belt), leather vest, tattoos, the whole gambit. Had his PhD from Caltech and was one of our spacecraft trajectory scientists. Hell of a nice guy too.
You said, "Marriage should be about children"...
I say, nonsense...what you say, is complete nonsense, to those who cannot have children, or do not want to have children, yet still want to marry..
I am very glad you are. Have fun and celibrate his joy.
GOOD ON YA!! :-)
I am not THAT happy about it....but I will make the best of it.
I understand. :-)
I still say good on ya for going.
Family is familiy.
A Freeper would politely refuse the invitation.
Offer no excuses.
Pray for his soul.
Nope, not this one. (nor many others from reading this thread)
Civil Union is one thing marriage is and should be another..
Marriage gives legal recourse to children.. to its parents..
Civil Union gives legal recourse to corporate partners.
rface stated "My Cousin knows where I stand on the Gay Marriage issue…. And my wife shares my view. Our views are not secretly held." You apparently don't have such views. rface does.
To attending this party for homosexuals that mocks a religious sacrament, he would be giving in to political correctness at the sacrafice of his principles.
Sort of like Bush-41 raising taxes.
Your principles are yours.
No one can take them from you.
You can, however, give them away.
There are weird gay people and there are weird straight people...weirdness strikes everywhere..
When my mom became ill, my dad was going to take her to a neurologist, as suggested by the GP, as he thought she had Parkinsons...now my parents lived in a rather small town, and rural area, and the only neurologist was gay...some busybody neighbor 'warned' my dad about this, hinting that not only was he gay, he was not a good doctor...it was almost as if with her, it was a given, that because a doctor is 'gay', he is not a good doctor...but this busybody, recommended another neurologist, a good, straight neurologist, so she said, in another town, about an hours drive away...
So my dad decided to drive an hour or so south down the freeway, to a bigger area, to find this recommended neurologist, who diagnosed my mom with Parkinsons...mom was put on meds, and this doc reviewed her case from time to time..
When my dad got sick with cancer, I had to take over care for my mom, and him as well...when I began to really read up about Parkinsons, and now having to live with my mother and observing her first hand, I came to the realization, that I thought my mom had been misdiagnosed...her symptoms did not really match up, with what I was reading, and the meds this neurologist had my mom on, seemed to be of no value whatsoever...
I took her back down to this 'straight' neurologist, voiced my concerns, and asked him to reconsider his diagnosis of my mom...he did as I asked, but still came up with the same diagnosis..I was really quite dissatisfied...
So I took my mom to the 'gay' neurologist, who upon two worksups on my mom, was adamant, that this 'straight' neurologist had misdiagnosed my mom...thing was, this 'gay' neurologist, was actually in the middle of making a move to a big city, NYC...but he made his initial exam of my mom, and assured me that another neurologist would be taking over...I must add here, that the 'gay' neurologist had his partner, working as the receptionist...for those who claim that they have 'gaydar', I would challenge any one of them to meet this doctor anywhere, and I assure you, one would never guess he was gay..his partner on the other hand, was very effeminate, and one would at least be suspicious, that he was gay...on the other hand, this receptionist, was a very sweet and caring man, who put the patients at complete ease in the waiting room, and was really especially kind to my mom, which I appreciated...
Now it was time to see a third neurologist(gay or straight I do not know), who also agreed, that my mom did not have Parkinsons as the first 'straight' neurologist had originally said...
My dad died shortly after this, and then I brought my mom to live with me in a different state, and the whole hunt began again, for another neurologist...found quite a fine one(whether gay or straight, I dont know, and dont care)...he examined my mom quite thoroughly, and again, as the second and third neurologists said, this first neurologist was completely wrong in his diagnosis of my mom...
My mom did not have Parkinsons at all, she had Alzheimers, or some other similar dementia...
My point of this rather long, probably boring story, is that unfortunately, in an attempt to find my mom good medical care, my dad allowed himself to be influenced by a busy-body, know nothing, sanctimonious neighbor, who just felt it her 'duty' to 'warn' my dad about the dangers and evils of taking my mom to a 'gay' neurologist, because first off he was gay(how horrid), and secondly she seemed to intimate that because he was gay, he was also a second rate doctor...well, the 'straight' neurologist that my dad saw instead, was the second rate doctor, perhaps even a third rate doctor...but according to this neighbor, he was a fine doctor, because he was straight...
Go to your cousins wedding...if you and he have been close all of your lives, I feel you will regret it for years to come, if you do not go..
You said, "Civil Union is one thing marriage is and should be another"
Just what is it that you are saying here?...are you saying that those who cannot or will not have children, should just get a Civil Union, as you call it, before a justice of the Peace, or a judge, and that only those who plan to have children should have a religious ceremony for their marriage?
I am unclear what you mean here...if what I posted is a correct interpretation of what you are saying, again, I call it for what it is...nonsense..
If on the other hand, you mean something else entirely, what would that be?
my cousin says he has "gaydar". I believe him
.....but you are being sucked into an argument that will only piss you off. An argument that will have no winner. An argument that will never end.
I agree with you .... I am going to eat some ice cream. Want some?
Of course it is your business...anything on this thread is fair game for anyone else to comment about...
Your point is extremely well taken, and I do agree with you about it...however, discussing it, even tho it will be a disagreement that will have no winner, and the disagreement will go on, and on, still I think it informative and quite enlightening, to find out the views of others on this forum...
And yes, ice cream would be delightful..
How does this mock a religious sacrament?
And since you don't know me, don't even presume to lecture me on priciples.
Hey, not a problem by me. Sadly, I've had very bad experiences with them not behaving.
One incident we were having a conservation with a trio across another table one night. They had a bit too much too drink. We were compelled to ignore them after they got drunk and began showboating their homosexuality. The owner of the vinyard asked them to stop immediately or leave. They had asked us to get them to quiet them down - we didn't know them! We responded "YOU SAT THEM NEXT TO US!"
They didn't charge us for a single drink that night.
I too have seen and experienced bad behavior. The activists I cannot stand.
I would go - no question in my mind.
NO, a wedding is not necessary. Live with the person and quit trying to make it okay. It is not.
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