[blam]

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[Jedi Master Pikachu]

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[Cicero]

Nice art but nasty human sacrifices. Maybe Matthew Arnold chose the wrong term.

[SkyPilot]

If anything, they were more refined than the shepherds and farmers in the nearby hills, the Israelites, who slandered them in biblical chapter and verse and rendered their name a synonym for boorish, uncultured people.

Well, well, well. The NY Slimes shows up to tell all us uneducated rubes that it was really the Philistines who were sophisticated, and the Jews were the boorish slobs who stole land.

Memo to the NY Slimes and the idiot that wrote this drivel - the Torah and the Bible are GOD'S WORD! It is true. No one "slandered" anyone. The Philistines were an evil people.

Also, Israel was a wasteland when the Arabs controlled it.

The Jews have turned the land they control into a lush, beautiful land in just a few years.

The Palestinians, on the other hand.............

[SunkenCiv]

they were more refined than the shepherds and farmers in the nearby hills, the Israelites, who slandered them in biblical chapter and verse and rendered their name a synonym for boorish, uncultured people.

Not true, IOW, the writer from the Slimes is either ignorant or just a liar. The Philistines were enemies of the Israelites, and portrayed as such, but are also portrayed as urban, and militarily strong. More to the point, the Philistines wouldn't ever have been heard of at all, by anyone, had they not been the not-too-neighborly neighbors.

Giving Goliath His Due:
New Archaeological Light on the Philistines
chapter 5 "David's Flight"
by Neal Bierling
foreword by Paul L. Maier
old edition at Amazon

The name Goliath, like Achish, is not Semitic, but rather Anatolian (McCarter 1980, 291, Mitchell 1967, 415; Wainwright 1959, 79). Not all agree though; the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (2:524) proposes that Goliath may have been a remnant of one of the aboriginal groups of giants of Palestine who now were in the employ of the Philistines. [1. Naveh (1985, 9, 13 n. 14) states that Ikausu, the name of the king of Ekron in the seventh century b.c., is a non-Semitic name that can be associated with that of the Achish of Gath in David's time. The name in the seventh century has a shin ending that is non-West Semitic.]

In Pharaohs and Kings David Rohl suggests (pp 164, 168, and 224) that the king of Gath, a Philistine city, had a Hurrian/Carian name, which is not that farfetched, but the idea that King David ruled in Jerusalem at the same time is incorrect. The Gath reference Rohl cites is found in the Amarna diplomatic correspondence, a time in which Gath was no longer Philistine, the Philistines themselves no longer a going concern and David was long dead.

Caphtor
by Immanuel Velikovsky
(similar idea expressed in Ages In Chaos on p 201 in footnote)

If Caphtor is not Cyprus, then the Old Testament completely omits reference to this large island close to the Syrian coast. The phonetics of the name also point to Cyprus. Separately I show that Tarshish was the name of Crete.

[SunkenCiv]

one of those.

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