Then why do you do this?
To: mpackardDon't forget...there are rules...
12 posted on 03/12/2007 4:38:34 PM EDT by Lucky9teen (I used 2 think people were factually ignorant but talking 2 liberals I realize people R just stupid.)
Are you trolling?
Posted on 03/11/2007 9:08:10 AM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly
I found out I couldn't afford Rehab, so I just went to the three-day follow-up ;'}
Wow! It's been a while since I remembered what I don't like about FR.
Every so often (like every time her name is mentioned) somebody talks about how pretty Ann is, which makes it fair game to disagree and/or generally discuss what you think about her looks. But it is beyond despicable to pick on Naj's looks just because you can't defend yourself in an argument against her. Not only does it show your complete lack of debating skills, and your complete lack of class, but it brings up serious self-esteem issues. If I were you I'd be embarassed. Or maybe you have a photo of yourself you'd like to post for general comment?
Free Republic is supposed to be about ideas. I wish it were.
Shalom.
I would observe that Ann's suggestion that Edwards is a faggot is not true in the sense of Edwards being a practicing homosexual or switch hitter (at least to the best of my or any commonly suspected knowledge) but then again, Lindsay Graham, straight or not, is not known to be a woman either. I honestly believe that you are at least as inaccurate in depicting Graham as she is in depicting Edwards. If you want to take the high ground on such inaccuracies, it is not unfair to call you to account over the Graham photo alteration or to expect revision.
I would also observe that I am very glad that the GOP has changed since I started voting (for Nixon in 1968).
First bullet point. Ann is making fun of married father Edwards on a secondary meaning of "faggot" (weak-kneed, limp, etc) just as you are with Graham but she is not using graphics. She was speaking at CPAC and some are concerned that it reflects negatively on conservatives as a whole. I think that the ritual behavior of the left calling conservatives nazis, fascists, murderers, etc., is quite objectionable. OTOH, this is America where society's enemies have rights. Some say that society's friends have rights too. The point is well taken that this is not truly a Freedom of Speech issue but rather than a discretionary speech issue in which the speaker (Ann in this case) while having the right to speak ought to exercise the discretion to refrain from disturbing speech.
Very garish aborted baby pictures are offensive to many people. I have represented people who have distributed them to people at random or held them up for public display particularly so that junior high and high school students will see the pictures. Does this coarsen our society? Of course it does. Are many parents outraged? Of course they are. Are some of the outraged parents the same ones who will take 14-year-old Suzy down to the abortion mill by the twisted ear to kill their grandchildren for their own prideful purposes and call it "freedom of choice" for resistant Suzy???? You bet. Another example of justified poor taste. One murder by abortion thwarted suffices as an excuse.
Ann's short jab was a lot more effective than the long form you suggest. Think of the Roman gladius or short sword deftly wielded that conquered a world of soldiers and tribesmen with long swords clumsily wielded.
David Keene is the head of the American Conservative Union nowadays. I am personally acquainted with him and do not respect him for various reasons. If he calls the shots on CPAC, I am more offended by that than by anything that Ann said. YAF is not the very effective group that it was when Keene was National YAF Chairman. Republican groups increasingly are seduced by money obsessives. Tax cuts are nice but not at the top of my list.
In 1972, I was part of a group of YAFers who were relentlessly tailing McGovern with bullhorns wherever in New England he went. We baited McGovern, Frank Mankiewicz who was as close to campaign manager as anyone with him and anyone with a known name daring to accompany them. We were mean. We were nasty. We were personal. McGoo carried only Taxachusetts. With Reagan, we even took Taxachusetts from Cahtuh and from Mondale, although I was busy being a lawyer by then. We owed McGovern, et al., no more and we owed America no less.
We probably agree on the goal. We certainly disagree on the tactics. There is room for both sorts of tactics. If you insist on scholarly analysis, footnotes, formal method, gentlemanly courtesy, there is and always has been room for that. If Ann and others want to operate in the fashion of the YAF/CR/YR organizations of decades past that was the incubator and nursery of the conservative movement back when we actually had one, there is ALWAYS room for that.
You have actual and plausible deniability to say that Ann's style or tactics are not yours. Bill Buckley said some awfully rough things at YAF conferences: "Betty Ford, having achieved her high office in American life by a concatenation of events felonious and romantic...."
In the last several decades, we have lost that cherished sense of the usefulness of being brats. Our being brats drives the left wild which should be among our goals. Also try to find leftists willing to actually engage on substance and intellect since McGovern's nomination beyond the level of "Bush lied, kids died." Good luck.
Summation: We agree on most goals and disagree on tactics. As those ancestors of mine who were Scots sang: "You take the high road and I'll take the low road....." and let us each remember where we bury the bodies of the bad guys.
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"But it is beyond despicable to pick on Naj's looks just because you can't defend yourself in an argument against her."
Yes, of course that is exactly what I did.
Sheesh.
(And thank you for reminding me for the thousandth time recently about what I don't like about FR.)
"Free Republic is supposed to be about ideas. I wish it were."
Oh, my sides.
Yes these three or four dozen Coulter bashing threads are all about "ideas."
"I also thought this was a great place where other posters wouldn't attack you for things you said..."
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
And how do you "hit" a tipping point?
That's not even good English.
"Now on HJR 2190, Edwards voted to waste taxpayers' money.
Edwards voted for SB 201790 when he might have been running for re-election in North Carolina and now wants to be a national Democrat.
Not only that but Edwards likes welfare spending.
Golly, his ideas on social issues are REALLY icky.
No one I know likes his hairstyle no matter how many hours he puts into it each day.
Democrats and liberals are just not nice!
Sometimes Edwards is actually immoderate in his speech.
Be sure to vote for whoever sounds most moderate so that we can live in a moderate country ever after. Amen."
There ya go. A winning strategy to be sure.
"Now on HJR 2190, Edwards voted to waste taxpayers' money.
Edwards voted for SB 201790 when he might have been running for re-election in North Carolina and now wants to be a national Democrat.
Not only that but Edwards likes welfare spending.
Golly, his ideas on social issues are REALLY icky.
No one I know likes his hairstyle no matter how many hours he puts into it each day.
Democrats and liberals are just not nice!
Sometimes Edwards is actually immoderate in his speech.
Be sure to vote for whoever sounds most moderate so that we can live in a moderate country ever after. Amen."
There ya go. A winning strategy to be sure.
I worry about her. Obviously she has a naturally slender build - I could eat nothing but flies and never be that thin! - but I'd hate for her intellect and chutzpah to be lost because she won't eat.
Then why do you do this?
To: mpackardDon't forget...there are rules...
12 posted on 03/12/2007 4:38:34 PM EDT by Lucky9teen (I used 2 think people were factually ignorant but talking 2 liberals I realize people R just stupid.)
Are you trolling?
Ha ha ha! A high protein diet though! LOL I have a friend who was extremely skinny in high school and college -- we used to laugh about it. (Together I mean.) I tried hard to keep weight off and she tried to gain. Life is funny, isn't it?
High fiber, too :-).
But you understand the point: we all have different genetic potential, size-wise.
Yep - I do. God made us all different. It's a good thing.
Oh shoot - I admitted I believe in Creation. I guess I'll get nailed by the Evos now. LOL
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