Posted on 03/10/2007 9:52:57 PM PST by Flavius
Karankawa
An interesting read
Buffalo Hump lead a raid across Texas all the way to the coast in 1840. They were finally caught and defeated at Plum Creek on the way back.
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Click here to see a couple of badass Texas-Comanche warriors.
Not sure what your point is but 1800's Comanchees were the scurge of Texas settlers.
"I was myself, to be honest, kind of surprised that the native americans felt any desire whatsoever to help americans..."
You probably don't know about the Navaho "codetalkers" of world war II either. They confounded the Japs, and greatly aided our victories in the Pacific Islands.
Your willingness to think poorly of Native Americans reflects on your poor knowledge of our military/war history.
Once a brave, noble opponent; later brave soldiers for us.
6 and 1/2 feet to 7 feet tall, using 6 foot longbows that still survive today...In 1768, a Spanish Padre gave detail to their ritual flesh eating ceremonies. The "savages" would lash an enemy to a stake and then, dancing around the sacrifice, they would dart in, slice off a piece of flesh with a sharp blade, then roast it in front of the victim, in an already prepared campfire. Then they would devour it, as the victim watched in horror at consumption of himself, before his very eyes.
...in the record of Álvar Núñez Cabeza de Vaca in 1528, a most telling insight into the culture and nature of these giants. Finding Cabeza de Vaca, lost and frightened, washed ashore on Galveston Island with the few survivors of the ill-fated Pánfilo de Narváez Expedition, the Karankawa sat down and wept with them.
They were the rejects of the Indian world until they got the horse. From then on they were among the fiercest of the plains Tribes. Payback was a bitch.
I don't know anything about that. My only point was that we are still around. We just assimilated.
I served. I hope I raise my sons well enough that they would want to serve this great country.
This is a photo of me and my "half-breed" son...lol. His momma is third generation American of German descent.
I...on the other hand ...I'm 100% the real deal. This photo was taken in Amarillo last year. You know what...I think this is the first time I revealed what I looked like on FR. LOL.
The Karankawa were probably not cannibals. There were other tribes near them that were and early explorers probably got them confused. They were described as being extremely tall: all men ranged between 6 and 7 feet. Unfortunately, they were all wiped out by 1860.
They can also look for a good location for another casino.
They were sometimes brave and a tough adversary but they were anything but noble. They were unrestrained in their brutality and there is a certain facinating quality about that, but a legacy of murder and rape and brutal enslavement is not a hallmark of high character.
The family history says she died of a broken heart after being rescued.
That's sad, are there any books about her life?
If I'm not mistaken, Native Americans serve in the U.S. military in proportions exceeding that of any other ethnic group. It's a warrior culture. You should read about Native Americans in World War II. They were heroes.
We may have reached the end of our global reach.
Imposing law and order on the Hindu Kush has been tried by the Russians, the British, the Moghuls, the Mongels, the Persians, and the Greeks, and the only law that endures is Pukhtunwali.
Somewhere from within the US-UK-AUS SOF community a Lawrence of Afghanistan-type snake eatin', Airborne Ranger Pashto-speaking ethnologist must be found and encouraged and supported. It will take much tea drinking, much palavering, and a helluva lot of gold.
Pashtunistan has a lot of historical parallels to Apacheria. It's the Wild, Wild East. And many of the tricks General Crook used to bring in Geronimo are worth looking at if America is serious about bringing in UBL and Zawahiri.
If western Pakistan is allowed to become a sanctuary, The Base for al Qaeda, they will use that sanctuary to prepare for and launch another horrendous mass casualty event, worse then 9/11. That nest of snakes must be cleaned out, but air power or neutron bombs or brigades of air mobile infantry won't succeed.
What will succeed? Poachers make the best gamekeepers. Our Pashtuns must be unleashed upon their Pashtuns. al Qaeda survives in western Pakistan by taking advantage of the Pashtun tenet of melmastia. Osama's son is married to Mullah Omar's daughter. Zawahiri is married to a Mohmand woman. The Taliban has become dependent upon al Qaeda for money, training, and strategic direction, and al Qaeda has always depended on the Taliban for protection. The Taliban is a Pashtun movement. To fight and win against the Taliban we need Pashto-fluent operators who understand pukhtunwali and the dynamics of clan and khel rivalries, which must be exploited to the fullest.
After 5 years, I imagine we do have a lot more Pashto-speaking snake eaters than we used to, and I expect they are out there having adventures that would boggle Rudyard Kipling's mind that none of us will read about until everything is declassified 40 years from now.
Those Spaniards should have watched their horses better.
Thanks for that link...
My great grandfather, was always called a 'Lakota Sioux', by my dad...my great grandmother lived at the cavalry fort of Ft Yates, in North Dakota, during the mid 1890s, and was there that she had her first child, my grandfather...
So my dad would tell us, that part of his and us kids familial line was 'Lakota Sioux', in proportion percentage wise, to which generation you are in...
We were just told, that the Lakota Sioux were one of the different groups of the Sioux Nation, as you have shown from this link...
Thanks for that info...
36-year-old Chai Wang of St. Paul, Minnesota? The man had apparently been hunting, gotten lost and stopped a couple of hunters to ask for directions. He wandered onto 400 acres of private land. After the incident, the shooter got lost again and was led from the woods by two hunters who were unaware of the incident.
If they send this guy, Osama is in no danger. Obama would even be relatively safe.
Oh, you mean the Native Americans were not as brave and noble, nor as of as high a character, as that exhitibed by Colonel John M. Chivington at Sand Creek?
I highly recommend the very fine book "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" to anyone interested in the history of the Native Americans. It's a story you'll never forget.
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