Posted on 03/09/2007 8:38:29 AM PST by westcoastwillieg
Cities at the tipping point - overpopulation destroying major U.S. cities.
Ref: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html
Ref: http://www.carryingcapacity.org/
A common fallacy is to equate existing and seemingly open or "unused" spaces with the kind of resources and ecologically productive land needed to support human life under modern conditions. In fact, the criterion for determining whether a region is overpopulated is not land area, but carrying capacity.
Carrying capacity refers to the number of individuals who can be supported in a given area within natural resource limits, and without degrading the natural social, cultural and economic environment for present and future generations. The carrying capacity for any given area is not fixed. It can be altered by improved technology, but mostly it is changed for the worse by pressures which accompany a population increase. As the environment is degraded, carrying capacity actually shrinks, leaving the environment no longer able to support even the number of people who could formerly have lived in the area on a sustainable basis. No population can live beyond the environment's carrying capacity for very long.
The average American's "ecological footprint" (the demands an individual endowed with average amounts of resources, i.e., land, water, food, fiber, waste assimilation and disposal, etc. puts on the environment) is about 12 acres, an area far greater than that taken up by one's residence and place of school or work.
The CIA World Factbook lists the total land area of the United States (includes the 50 states and District of Columbia) as 9,161,923 sq km---converted to acres, the total land area of the United States is 2,263,911,173 acres. Dividing total area by the 12 acre ecological footprint per person yields a sustainable population of 188,659,264. Even if we lower the ecological footprint to 10 acres per person the calculation will yield a population of 226,391,117 far lower than our current population of 300 million. By this measure, the United States is overpopulated by well over 70 million people.
While some may quibble with the method used, the math is irrefutable. This back of the envelope calculation is one that every American should be aware of. Immigration is largely responsible for our population growth. Immigrants don't travel by covered wagon anymore, the majority congregate in our cities. The demands on our cities are overwhelming. Anyone who lives in a large city can see the results of overpopulation on their roads, schools, hospitals, courts and jails. While many reasons are given for electrical outages and the high price of oil, the root cause (usually not stated) is simply overpopulation. The amount of energy we require is largely a function of population. Just as two people require more water than one person so it is with energy in a modern society.
By the year 2050, census estimates predict that our population will be almost 500,000,000 and by 2075 may reach ONE BILLION. Behind China and India, the U.S. is the third most populous nation in the world and were fast catching up. According to the U.S. Census Bureau our population was 297,821,175 on January 1, 2006 an increase of 2.71 million in only one year. Unless we elect politicians who have the courage to reduce population growth, the future is grim.
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The US would comfortably support a billion people. There is tons of available land, and we already feed a quarter of the world with our agricultural exports.
I would prefer not to see a billion in the US...But 400-500 million would be just acceptable....As the Chinese economic size goes on increasing, we have to expand to stay on the top of the game...in PPP terms Chinese are almost near the US economic size...Without a large population, it is not possible to have a large enough economy....
I have one thing to say about the Hagel-Martinez....
A huge demographic change is coming in the US in the next 20 years...77 million people would start retiring and put strain on the social services, Medicare and social security...No one seems to have a plan to deal with the labor shortage to...
What would be worse.....??
Getting 66 million new immigrants through Hagel Martinez or economic meltdown because of the demographic change ???
The loads of crap have to be dumped somewhere...
Bump
I wonder what the "carrying capacity" of China or India is, analyzed using this methodology.
Population causes a load on the environment, and it becomes more challenging to maintain quality of life and standard of living, but people are also economic activity, power, and not least importantly a blessing from God.
The population of the United States in 1870 was 38 million. It doubled to 76 million by 1900, just thirty year later. If one were to have made a projection based on then current growth rates, the population of the U.S. should have been 912 million in 2005. The problem with projections is that they assume a constant state and cannot predict future change.
A rather dubious comparison. The Bureau of the Census projections are constantly being revised. Using your example of the projecting the population of the US 105 years later usng the period 1870 to 1900 is specious. The Bureau of the Census projection for 2030 is relatively a short timeframe. It is only 23 years from now.
Secondly, the population of the US is not only affected by birth rates, but also by immigration policy and the lack of control over our borders. We are taking in 1 million LEGAL immigrants a year and 500,000 to 1 million illegal aliens. If the senate comprehensive immigration bill passes, then we could be adding an additional 60 million persons by over the next twenty years. Certain public policy changes can affect future population projections.
Finally, more Americans are living longer, which could affect the numbers. Agreed that these are just projections or educated guesses, but there is no dispute that we have added about 100 million to our population since 1970 and about 20 million since 2000 with immigration accounting for about 3/4 of the population increase. There are about 6 million future immigrants waiting in line overseas due to the caps on various categories under the chain migration policies.
Do you believe population projections are useful or worthwhile? We also use projections to forecast when Social Security will start paying out more than it is taking in [2017]. Do you believe these projections?
I'm going to be one of them.. I visited the Phoenix area sometime ago I met a lot of people from the Chicago area...
Any projection for the future based on the past has an excellent chance of being proved inaccurate, since the change brought about by current trends leads to unforeseen consequences in the future.
The projections are only as good as the data that support it. We use such projections in business all of the time. Insurance is a good example. What is your point? That we not use projections at all?
But we're not catching up that fast. We just hit 300. Although some very overly optimistic types forecast 400 later this century I remain skeptical, and suspect we'll actually go the way of Europe. Even the immigrants become dinks or single childers after a single generation. Plus no way open borders will continue more than a week after the next big attack.
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