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To: wtc911
How can one be 'hopelessly liberal' on social issues (gun control, abortion, family integrity, open borders, personal responsibility are social issues) and still be a Conservative?

Because we're talking politics here, and 'Conservative' should refer to political issues.

Which we all agree on.

If you start saying "X is not a 'real' conservative', like me", then you're kicking them out of your coalition. And that is a sure way to lose elections.

466 posted on 03/08/2007 10:20:05 AM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Dominic Harr

I took a minute to read some of your posts on a few threads. I think that we agree in spirit if not exactly in degree.


494 posted on 03/08/2007 10:53:09 AM PST by wtc911
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To: Dominic Harr; wtc911
How can one be 'hopelessly liberal' on social issues (gun control, abortion, family integrity, open borders, personal responsibility are social issues) and still be a Conservative?

I acknowledge I am 'hopelessly liberal' on THAT ONE ISSUE of illegal immigration.

You are a liar when you call me a liberal...uber liberal, etc..

Regarding your list...gun control...I am definitely pro 2nd Amendment...and don't own a firearm.

On abortion...I am strictly Pro-Life. How could anyone have five beautiful children and not be? But I believe it should be a State issue.

Family integrity...meaning gay marriage? I have a minimalistic view of marriage per se. It's a revokable contract.

I put principle above politics and took a lot of flak for agreeing that Clinton should send Elian back to his blood father. A very ugly period in here.

Open borders ...I am totally against. But once a man runs the gauntlet and sets up a home...works...spends money...and raises a family...well, he's a helleva lot better than the cradle to grave welfare sect. Give them citizenship and get them on the tax rolls. Embrace them and STFU!

Personal responsibility to me means offering a helping hand, not a permanent shoulder.

It means rewarding excellence and risk and it means tough love for the opposite.

So...am I a Liberal or a Conservative?

Awaiting an apology. Hurry.

520 posted on 03/08/2007 1:13:15 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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