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1 posted on 03/07/2007 5:05:35 PM PST by LibWhacker
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...Horrible sensations of falling or rising at high speed. Like a lift or driving down a hill. G- acceleration and deceleration. Almost makes you want to throw up.

kinda like seeing Helen Thomas pictures.

2 posted on 03/07/2007 5:09:01 PM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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Nah..they're wrong..it's space aliens.


3 posted on 03/07/2007 5:18:03 PM PST by bkepley
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Don't buy it. If you read the accounts of people who have claimed to have near death experiences, they read as accounts of things that the amygdala inadequate to be the mediator for. If one was to account for them with neuronal activity, you'd have to resort to significant activity in the cerebral cortext to get there.

In the end, this article amounts to nothing more than one professor's belief - which, by the way, contradicts what we know about neuroscience.


4 posted on 03/07/2007 5:22:41 PM PST by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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Not surprisingly, these bizarre experiences - called REM intrusions by scientists - are accompanied by fear and terror.

Don't believe out of body experiences that involve feelings of going to the light or seeing angels could be fear or terror

6 posted on 03/07/2007 5:23:25 PM PST by Right in Wisconsin (Have a Happy Day)
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I have a friend, (I don't think she would mind me telling her story) who will remain anonymous, who claims she died. She did see Christ, who told her to "hold on to life" and He sent her back. While she was with Him, she noticed a gate with a door. The door was only open a little bit, she could have never passed through.

She came back and is now a Eucharistic Minister to the homebound. She is a wonderful and holy woman.


8 posted on 03/07/2007 5:44:53 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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"Many times I've left my senses, fought giant serpents, rats upon my bed!" (Edmund-Edmund, Not Insane, Firesign Theatre)
9 posted on 03/07/2007 5:49:14 PM PST by LibKill (Rudy-Lickers LOVE abortion! They ADORE a man in drag! 2nd amdnt Rights? HAH!)
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bttt


10 posted on 03/07/2007 5:53:13 PM PST by aberaussie (Ignorance has a cost.)
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I experience sleep paralysis from time to time. Never had an OBE or an NDE. Mine is the more mundane version as described in the article. It happens when I'm coming awake, but equidistant from both sleep and consciousness. I hear mumbling or laughter or some such thing, often feel like I'm being pulled or sucked down a vortex, all accompanied by an immense feeling of terror that causes me to scream myself awake. The first time it happened, I was pretty scared afterward. Now, I sort of know what to expect, and know that it's natural, so depending on how conscious I am, it's more of an annoyance than anything. Sort of like, "okay, let's get this overwith." Happens very rarely, thankfully.


11 posted on 03/07/2007 5:55:50 PM PST by RepublicanPOTUSin08
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Then how do you explain more than one individual who "floated" above the room while doctors feverishly tried (and succeeeded in) to save their lives? These people were able to later describe exactly what happened during their time of "death." The medical personnel were amazed at the details provided.

This is just something I once read and cannot vouch for other than saying that. But if it is so, then there are death experiences no matter what this person in this study says.

13 posted on 03/07/2007 6:12:36 PM PST by OldPossum
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I have had long periods of time where I have suffered from sleep paralysis. It is indisious and very frightening.


16 posted on 03/07/2007 6:19:53 PM PST by BunnySlippers (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT 2008)
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Because the brain turns off the body's ability to move during dreaming,...

Stopped reading right there. That's bull.

A long-long time ago --- I used to pitch softball and during one game, I had a hard-hit line drive right back at my face. I caught the ball with no problem and even doubled the guy off first who had broken for second when the batter swung. I didn't think anything of it at the time.

But that night, this was only a few weeks after I got married, I had a 'flashback dream', where that ball was coming right at my face and I reacted by thrashing my "glove hand" and ended up smacking my sleeping wife right in the face. We both woke up and my bride wondered what the hell hit her and as I tried to explain, --- well, it just made it worse. ;~))

Yes, you can move during dreams.

18 posted on 03/07/2007 6:27:39 PM PST by Ditto
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Yeah, Professor Secular whatever it takes..but by whatever roundabout method of scientific-method tortuosity you use to get there, none of that God and Heaven superstititious nonsense. Right? Don't wanna jeopardize the grant money gravy train.


So the mystery of what starts the baby's heart beating inside his mother's womb can be explained by String Theory, I suppose.


22 posted on 03/07/2007 6:30:28 PM PST by EyeGuy
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I have very occasional sleep paralysis, OBEs and lucid dreams.
My OBEs always begin with a really odd rushing sound in the head that is hard to describe....sort of a cross between a sound and the buzzy sensation you get when your leg goes to sleep on you.

No..I don't smoke weed, drink or take dope.


24 posted on 03/07/2007 6:32:58 PM PST by Bobalu (This is not the tag line you are looking for.....move along (waves hand))
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These so called doctors can somehow say that there is no such thing as spiritual dimension. NDE Seeing the White Light, Speaking to God or Jesus, But yet they can not explain how pvs patients and brain injury patients are waking up after years in a coma, able to tell their stories of a Spiritual Healing. Just today in the news a woman woke from a 6 year coma and the doctors called it a Miracle, a Mystery.


27 posted on 03/07/2007 6:36:53 PM PST by glymers
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A lot of people seem to feel an intense need to return to their body when they have these experiences. Maybe this is where ghosts come from?

I've sometimes had the "Falling out of bed" sensation.

43 posted on 03/07/2007 8:23:58 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("...Mindless pack of trained Maoist circus seals.")
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Bump.....


49 posted on 03/07/2007 9:38:04 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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Re: "idea that the near-death experience is a biological experience"

The study is nothing new. Try research from Dr. Persinger and his "God Helmet." Bombard the brain with EM waves and feel what happens. Everything from terror to sexual gratification. He also knows cell phones has an effect on the brain.
60 posted on 03/07/2007 10:39:05 PM PST by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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"I am a firm believer in biology," Prof Nelson said yesterday.

...and therefore will seek and accept only naturalistic explanations for these phenomena. Nothing supernatural is possible.

70 posted on 03/08/2007 6:35:14 AM PST by aberaussie (Ignorance has a cost.)
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Yeah, a person always has sleep paralysis when they die. The people who have these experiences are not near death, they are dead and are resuscitated. They are not asleep. I know two people who have died and had after(not near) death experiences. Scientist have come up with BS explanations before and this one is a little more off the wall then normal. The last theory put forth was that people suffered hallucinations due to lack of oxygen.
74 posted on 03/08/2007 8:40:41 AM PST by calex59
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