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Gates warns on US immigration curbs
FT ^ | March 7 2007 | Kevin Allison in San Francisco

Posted on 03/07/2007 2:25:58 PM PST by fishhound

Bill Gates, the chairman of Micro­soft, on Wednesday warned that restrictions on the number of skilled workers allowed to enter the US put the country’s competitiveness at risk.

The comments marked the latest attack on restrictive US immigration policies by the technology industry, which is facing a shortage of skilled workers even as demand for their skills is increasing.

Speaking before the Senate committee on health, education, labour and pensions, Mr Gates said that tighter US immigration policies – governed partly by concerns over terrorism – were “driving away the world’s best and brightest precisely when we need them most”.

“It makes no sense to tell well-trained, highly skilled individuals, many of whom are educated at our top colleges and universities, that the United States does not welcome or value them,” Mr Gates said. “America will find it infinitely more difficult to maintain its technological leadership if it shuts out the very people who are most able to help us compete.”

Mr Gates said that other countries were taking advantage of restrictive US policies by catering to highly skilled workers who would otherwise choose to study, live and work in the US.

“Our lost opportunities are their gains,” he said. “I personally witness the ill effects of these policies on an almost daily basis at Microsoft.”

Mr Gates’s comments on immigration were part of a broader warning over the state of US competitiveness.

Mr Gates said he felt “deep anxiety” about the US’s ability to remain competitive if it did not act quickly to improve education, invest in basic science research, and reform its immigration ­policies.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billgates; h1b; immigration; lowqualitycrap; microsoft
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To: avacado

EXACTLY!


21 posted on 03/07/2007 2:52:09 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Misery loves miserable company.......ask any liberal. Hunter in 08!)
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To: fishhound
My point earlier is that people who fulfull jobs as workers are not the same as people who create jobs.

He is saying two things at once....you know like a paradox thingy.

True, if you're to cram them into the same time-frame. I don't think he meant that the H-1B workers are both working as employees and creating jobs at the same time.

But there are plenty of good examples of immigrant workers who work their required time, then go on to create successful start-ups which employ many others.

22 posted on 03/07/2007 2:52:32 PM PST by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: Captainpaintball

I agree with you, but the brains are not there, or I should say, here. The liberals have successfully ruined education.


Shsssh..You hurt some kids self esteme./Major Sarc


23 posted on 03/07/2007 2:52:50 PM PST by fishhound
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To: TChris

the free market would be to bring them in as citizens. but companies don't want that, they know if their visa is conditional on their employment, they will work for less. and they do, I see it everyday.


24 posted on 03/07/2007 2:53:55 PM PST by oceanview
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To: TChris

Agreed.


25 posted on 03/07/2007 2:54:00 PM PST by fishhound
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To: fishhound

Bill Gates is not stupid - the man knows what he's talking about.

Better look carefully into what he is saying before we react.

Also - we would all do well to walk the halls of Microsoft, Google, IBM, SAP, and the other tech giants.

Their technical offices are not filled with WASP's - they are filled with Asians, Indians, Russians, etc.

Get the picture?


26 posted on 03/07/2007 2:56:59 PM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: fishhound

Bill Gates is not stupid - the man knows what he's talking about.

Better look carefully into what he is saying before we react.

Also - we would all do well to walk the halls of Microsoft, Google, IBM, SAP, and the other tech giants.

Their technical offices are not filled with WASP's - they are filled with Asians, Indians, Russians, etc.

Get the picture?


27 posted on 03/07/2007 2:57:26 PM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

Oops - oh well twice for effect.


28 posted on 03/07/2007 2:57:55 PM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: Right Cal Gal

Some are born with a silver spoon in thier mouths and some are born with a dot on thier forheads.

Yes, other countries do a better job with restricting the intake pool to those with education but Australia is brining in a lot of uneducated Muslims and there is conflict in the general population about it.


29 posted on 03/07/2007 2:58:01 PM PST by fishhound
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To: Jake The Goose

It is our education system.
And those people are making good incomes at the places you mentioned.


30 posted on 03/07/2007 3:00:24 PM PST by fishhound
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To: TChris
How is that not a free market? The indentured H-1B workers are free to accept the terms of the deal...

It's not a free market because it is the government saying these H-1B visa workers can't switch jobs. It's a condition of their government issued visa. While I agree with you that protectionism is ultimately harmful, so is government intervention in this labor market. Sure, let the foreign workers in, but remove government interference with companies bidding against each other. That will drive up the wages of the H1B and prevent the dumping of American workers for a cheaper worker.
31 posted on 03/07/2007 3:01:21 PM PST by newguy357
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To: avacado
It's not a free market when you bring in a labor force that is restricted from competing for higher salaries and must stay with a company for 6 years.

OK, yes it is restricted to a degree. You're right.

But it's far more capitalist in nature than the protectionist cries for restricting H-1Bs across the board. After the contractual 6 years are finished, it's purely free market.

32 posted on 03/07/2007 3:02:43 PM PST by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: Vigilanteman
Exactly. Furthermore, there is nothing preventing Bill Gates from opening a Microsoft Office in India or where ever he pleases. In fact, he already has done so. Exactly.
33 posted on 03/07/2007 3:02:56 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (27 B stroke 6 required)
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To: fishhound

just doing the jobs Americans refuse to do...


34 posted on 03/07/2007 3:04:06 PM PST by Republicus2001
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To: fishhound

100% CORRECT

100%


35 posted on 03/07/2007 3:04:07 PM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: MBB1984
Actually, what Gates is really referring to is the annual allotment of engineers, programmers and the like that are allowed to come into the U.S. on a special work permit each year. Other hi-tech firms such as Intel, Motorola, etc, have been lobbying for the number allowed in annually to be increased. Although Gates has couched his words to give the impression that he is talking about the "great unwashed", he is really only concerned about degree'd professionals. Gotta peel the onion....
36 posted on 03/07/2007 3:04:17 PM PST by snoringbear
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To: TChris
But it's far more capitalist in nature than the protectionist cries for restricting H-1Bs across the board. After the contractual 6 years are finished, it's purely free market.

This is nonsense. The resevoir of H1Bs is nearly limitless, with time. A company buys some for six years, and when they complete their obligation they are dumped from some brand-new H1Bs. It is a trough of endless cheap labor, which only exists because of government policy. That is not a free market. That is what destroys economies.
37 posted on 03/07/2007 3:06:21 PM PST by newguy357
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To: fishhound

Hey Billy Boy, I know of some really excellent programmers in NW Pakistan you'll want to get in here. Some ones in Syria as well ... /s


38 posted on 03/07/2007 3:09:26 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: newguy357

It's like being asked to "show us how you would solve this problem" on your interview and you think it is just interview BS but what they really are doing is getting free work out of you becuase someone left.


39 posted on 03/07/2007 3:09:29 PM PST by fishhound
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To: Jake The Goose

As well as Red Chinese (some of whom are anti American enemies beneath their corporate exteriors) as well as members of terror cells, and the like.


40 posted on 03/07/2007 3:11:02 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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