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To: csistrueblue

Let's be careful here, and make sure that the right thing is being argued.

Sounds to me from the story that the problem is that they're blocking traffic in a high-traffic area. If that's all this is, they should be more reasonable.


3 posted on 03/07/2007 7:52:04 AM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Ramius

the article said they were blocking traffic....


9 posted on 03/07/2007 7:55:35 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in New Orleans and Philly!)
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To: Ramius

"Let's be careful here, and make sure that the right thing is being argued"

...I would usually agree with your statement. However, the fact remains that there is and has been a double standard in regard to Christians vs Muslims. Several have already commented on what the treatment would be if these were Muslims chanting and praying. If so, this would be a non story. Instead, it's a group of Christians, and as we all know, it's easy to bash and push around a group of Christians. It's the "progressive" thing to do. I encourage all freepers to e-mail the principal with their thoughts.


12 posted on 03/07/2007 7:57:42 AM PST by albie
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To: Ramius
Let's be careful here, and make sure that the right thing is being argued. Sounds to me from the story that the problem is that they're blocking traffic in a high-traffic area. If that's all this is, they should be more reasonable.

But going off half-cocked is so much more fun!

An assistant superintendent at the school said the students were given suspensions for refusing to obey a faculty directive not to block traffic in the public area.

"No one gets suspended because they pray. This is a story of some kids who chose to defy a legitimate request by administrators to not disrupt other students," Bill Bentley said. Administrators had offered a classroom for the students' use, to ensure other students were not offended and the group did not obstruct traffic.


13 posted on 03/07/2007 7:58:47 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Ramius
Sounds to me from the story that the problem is that they're blocking traffic in a high-traffic area. If that's all this is, they should be more reasonable.

Indeed. What's wrong with a closed room? We don't want the diaperheads to gain the right to shout "Allahu Akbar" in every high school cafeteria in the nation.

25 posted on 03/07/2007 8:09:22 AM PST by montag813
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To: Ramius

I agree with you.

I don't like the way Christians are singled out any more than anyone else, but they cannot form a prayer group in the hallway of a public school. They just can't do it. They were not asked to stop. They were asked to take it to a designated area and to clear the hallway.


28 posted on 03/07/2007 8:10:43 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (HUNTER: "I don't have to hire a consultant to develop a conservative image, I am a conservative.")
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To: Ramius
Sounds to me from the story that the problem is that they're blocking traffic in a high-traffic area. If that's all this is, they should be more reasonable.

The 'commons' area from another report was the school cafeteria. Bottom line is that the school had no right to prohibit this activity or denying the requested organization and meeting of a prayer club during non-school times. This has been well established through court proceedings over the past several years.

30 posted on 03/07/2007 8:14:12 AM PST by Godzilla (Got Jesus? Its hell with out Him.)
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To: Ramius
A Christian prayer group meets all year round outside the front entrance to the public high school here.

Everyone using that entrance walks by them and observes them and there is no traffic flow disruption or issues of praying inside the school.

These Vancouver kids surely are not less wimpy about bad weather than Connecticut kids, are they?

33 posted on 03/07/2007 8:16:50 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Ramius

>>Raper's suit has no mentions of medical problems involving her now 2-year-old daughter.<<

Absolutely! They should not be "looking for a fight" The problem is not what they were doing, the problem is they were blocking traffic when they were doing it.

Of course, that is assuming the blocking traffic thing is true.


35 posted on 03/07/2007 8:21:01 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: Ramius

after continuing to meet for morning prayer in the commons area of the school,

Commons area is not a hallway, it's a lunchroom type enviroment.


40 posted on 03/07/2007 8:25:54 AM PST by Son House ( The Presidents enemies, are my enemies.)
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To: Ramius

Your caution is well taken. Reasonable restrictions on time place and manner are permissible.


46 posted on 03/07/2007 8:38:33 AM PST by almcbean
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To: Ramius; caseinpoint

The only question here is whether other groups have been allowed to "block traffic" by holding meetings in the commons area. If other groups can do ot, so can the prayer group; if other groups are also required to meet in other rooms, then the prayer group should be required to do the same.

We don't have much info about the layout of the room and surrounding areas, nor about the size of the group, but unless it's a very large group in a very small space, or the group is deliberately planting itself in the middle of the main path through the room (seems unikely), then the "blocking traffic" explanation seems a bit contrived. I wonder if it IS a very large group, and has only been offered alternative rooms that are not large enough for the group and/or would be so crowded as to discourage any additional students from joining.


53 posted on 03/07/2007 8:54:38 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Ramius
Let's be careful here, and make sure that the right thing is being argued.

Make no mistake, the battle is about Christianity vs Hedionism.

Do we have a clue here as to how hard it is for loyal Patriotic, Christians to work in the public schools? Yet most here want to allow these administrators to fire incompetent teachers. Care to guess who those incompetent teachers would be?

62 posted on 03/07/2007 9:10:43 AM PST by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: Ramius

I agree. I think you would have to know how disruptive they are.


66 posted on 03/07/2007 9:16:04 AM PST by stinkerpot65
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