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12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | March6, 2007 | Gudrun Schultz

Posted on 03/07/2007 7:48:42 AM PST by csistrueblue

12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

By Gudrun Schultz

VANCOUVER, Washington, March 6, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A number of students who formed an interdenominational prayer group at a Washington state high school were expelled by the administration last week over their refusal to hold a morning prayer session in a closed room, The Columbian reported March 2.

Twelve students at Heritage High School in Vancouver, WA, were suspended last Friday after continuing to meet for morning prayer in the commons area of the school, despite a faculty order that they stop causing physical "disruption" to student traffic with public prayer.

To express concerns, contact:

Heritage High School 7825 NE 130th Avenue, Vancouver, WA 98682

Phone: (360) 604-3400

Principal: Anne Sosky asosky@egreen.wednet.edu


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: freedomofspeech; schoolprayer
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To: HairOfTheDog
...to ensure other students were not offended and the group did not obstruct traffic.

It's the latter part that I'd have no problem with. But the former is a problem. If they're merely ~visible~ to other students, well, too bad. There shouldn't be a problem of them merely being in a public place, unless their little drum circle is in the middle of traffic.

It sounds like this group is putting themselves right in the middle of things, though. They went fishing for a confrontation and got one. My sympathy factor is low, so far.

21 posted on 03/07/2007 8:06:23 AM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: HairOfTheDog
to ensure other students were not offended

As I suspected.

23 posted on 03/07/2007 8:07:18 AM PST by B Knotts (Newt '08! FReepmail me to get on the Newt '08 Ping List)
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To: Ramius
Yet you have no problems, I'm sure, with sodomites running naked through the middle of the street playing grab arse right?

Shame on you!

24 posted on 03/07/2007 8:09:00 AM PST by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter)
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To: Ramius
Sounds to me from the story that the problem is that they're blocking traffic in a high-traffic area. If that's all this is, they should be more reasonable.

Indeed. What's wrong with a closed room? We don't want the diaperheads to gain the right to shout "Allahu Akbar" in every high school cafeteria in the nation.

25 posted on 03/07/2007 8:09:22 AM PST by montag813
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To: csistrueblue
Hey - Let's Freep

Hold on there, we need more info on the disruption of the flow of traffic.
27 posted on 03/07/2007 8:10:01 AM PST by BJClinton (Gore is like the evangalist that rails against homosexuality then hires male prostitutes.)
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To: Ramius

I agree with you.

I don't like the way Christians are singled out any more than anyone else, but they cannot form a prayer group in the hallway of a public school. They just can't do it. They were not asked to stop. They were asked to take it to a designated area and to clear the hallway.


28 posted on 03/07/2007 8:10:43 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (HUNTER: "I don't have to hire a consultant to develop a conservative image, I am a conservative.")
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To: EndWelfareToday

Uh... what in the world...?

LOL. Little trigger-happy this morning are we?


29 posted on 03/07/2007 8:10:49 AM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Ramius
Sounds to me from the story that the problem is that they're blocking traffic in a high-traffic area. If that's all this is, they should be more reasonable.

The 'commons' area from another report was the school cafeteria. Bottom line is that the school had no right to prohibit this activity or denying the requested organization and meeting of a prayer club during non-school times. This has been well established through court proceedings over the past several years.

30 posted on 03/07/2007 8:14:12 AM PST by Godzilla (Got Jesus? Its hell with out Him.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

The $64,000 question is not whether the prayerful students were told to move, but whether the administration has allowed other groups to assemble in the same area.


31 posted on 03/07/2007 8:14:37 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: csistrueblue

Come on everyone, this country was founded on Christianity, and we have the freedom on religion and the free exercise thereof. The muslims can do their praying anywhere they want. To a true conservative, what in the world do we have to argue about? This is why our country and government is in such a mess, so many are afraid to stand up for what they believe. Caving at every liberal wish. If God is in your life and you want to pray at a restaurant or school, or on the street, you should not be punished for it. Some of you better go back and read you "Bill of Rights".


32 posted on 03/07/2007 8:15:46 AM PST by moneypenny (if your for the UN, you are UNAmerican)
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To: Ramius
A Christian prayer group meets all year round outside the front entrance to the public high school here.

Everyone using that entrance walks by them and observes them and there is no traffic flow disruption or issues of praying inside the school.

These Vancouver kids surely are not less wimpy about bad weather than Connecticut kids, are they?

33 posted on 03/07/2007 8:16:50 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Ramius
They went fishing for a confrontation and got one. My sympathy factor is low, so far.

Agreed. My sympathy factor for people trying to run a school these days is growing. :~)

34 posted on 03/07/2007 8:17:20 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Ramius

>>Raper's suit has no mentions of medical problems involving her now 2-year-old daughter.<<

Absolutely! They should not be "looking for a fight" The problem is not what they were doing, the problem is they were blocking traffic when they were doing it.

Of course, that is assuming the blocking traffic thing is true.


35 posted on 03/07/2007 8:21:01 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

That Is the appropriate question. I will note however that it is the same group of posters here on FR that would be raising hell if the Muslins had requested a closed area for their prayer.


36 posted on 03/07/2007 8:21:20 AM PST by politicalwit (Freedom doesn't mean a Free Pass.)
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To: Froufrou

To be completely correct, they were asked to use a "closed" room. The closing of the room likely is part of the issue, as well.


37 posted on 03/07/2007 8:22:48 AM PST by MortMan (Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.)
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To: csistrueblue

A co-ed masturbation seminar would be ok tho??

shee-it


38 posted on 03/07/2007 8:25:04 AM PST by lawdude (2006: The elections we will live to die for!)
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To: csistrueblue


Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


39 posted on 03/07/2007 8:25:08 AM PST by moneypenny (if your for the UN, you are UNAmerican)
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To: Ramius

after continuing to meet for morning prayer in the commons area of the school,

Commons area is not a hallway, it's a lunchroom type enviroment.


40 posted on 03/07/2007 8:25:54 AM PST by Son House ( The Presidents enemies, are my enemies.)
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