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Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 03/07/2007 6:28:30 AM PST by MadIvan
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2 posted on 03/07/2007 6:29:21 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Good article, Ivan.


3 posted on 03/07/2007 6:31:14 AM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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Obviously, the future of the conservative movement and of the Republic itself requires GOP recruitment of more Latinos, Blacks and gays

Recruitment of gays? How many of them are there, and how many bother to vote?

6 posted on 03/07/2007 6:32:33 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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When it comes to salesmanship, I state things as plainly and and as openly as I see them. Conservatism is the opposite of liberalism. Thus, I could care less if skeptics and moderates like us. Those with weak or uncertain convictions are really closet liberals. We conservatives are true believers. Michael Medved thinks we come on too strong. I'm afraid we can't avoid offending liberals unless we agree to become them.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 03/07/2007 6:36:12 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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. ..there can be no argument about the purely destructive impact of Coulter’s sneering slur against Edwards.

Sure. Here

11 posted on 03/07/2007 6:36:14 AM PST by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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Bless this man for his cogent appraisal of the current situation.

Hope his computer doesn't melt down with vile emails directed at him daring to have an opinion.

Frankly, movement is the right word for those demanding an unattainable purity....I'll leave the kind of movement to the imagination.

13 posted on 03/07/2007 6:36:57 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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Medved is pompous, arrogant, and self-delusional (he believes in Bigfoot,...God he's not so sure of, but Bigfoot,...no problem).

Bush is Hitler, our Marines are savage murderers, America is worse than Pol Pot's regime, but no one can make a joke about an effeminate tweeb who is better known as the Silky Pony and Breck Girl. Especially when the joke was merely about lib PC doctrine!

15 posted on 03/07/2007 6:38:14 AM PST by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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I'm tired of Republicans walking on eggshells so not to offend. Ann is always a breath of fresh air. (and, MadIvan, you and Ann have a similar style of humor. I am suprised at your take on all this. Perhaps it's your "proper British gentleman" side?)


17 posted on 03/07/2007 6:39:15 AM PST by NewCenturions
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as she deployed the forbidden slur

Forbidden? By who? When? I need the list of forbidden words of which he speaks. I also need the list of groups that can't be offended. I don't want to make a mistake and wind up in political re-education rehab.

We can't win with people who think this way. All we'll do is slowly bleed to death by playing the Left's game by the Left's rules.

19 posted on 03/07/2007 6:40:16 AM PST by PajamaTruthMafia
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Yes there is. Michael Medved can bite me.




22 posted on 03/07/2007 6:42:00 AM PST by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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Medved - We need to RECRUIT MORE Latinos, Gays, and Blacks!

Absolute nonsense. Conservatives need to state conservative principles and any person in agreement should join us. Medved sounds like Howard Dean. Medved thinks the border guards got exactly what they deserved which melds nicely with his stand on open borders! Please, the guy is a pompous movie critic.

24 posted on 03/07/2007 6:42:39 AM PST by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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Faggot is not a forbidden slur.

It is quite common in art and literature, it is a slang word among youth of the last few decades, and it is also a description of a particular type of gay....the flaming, flamboyent, uber effeminate variety.

Personally, I don't have it at the high end of the Outrageous Word Scale. It's probably about a 5 or 6. The "N" word is a 10.

FWIW, Elton John gladly supported Eminem's work that was laced with the word faggot.


27 posted on 03/07/2007 6:43:55 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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Vote for a liberal, and you'll get more liberalism.
Don't vote (D/L). Don't vote (R/L). Don't vote for a letter of the alphabet.
Vote for a philosophy.
Vote for a Conservative, and you'll get more Conservatism.

You'll get what you voted for. Vote wisely.

38 posted on 03/07/2007 6:54:02 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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What a wuss medved is:

Obviously, the future of the conservative movement and of the Republic itself requires GOP recruitment of more Latinos, Blacks and gays, and anything that stands in the way of such participation fatally undermines the party’s future.

ANYTHING Michael??

Like accepting the far lefts version of Politcal Correctness, also known as an Orwellian nightmare? Like accepting a stinking LIBERAL for a presidential nominee of the "conservative" party? Like accepting the status quo of illegal aliens overrunning the border? By accepting law breaking mayors who offer these illegals "safe sancuary"? By pandering to NAACP and the Urban League and the rest of the anti-american black scumbag leftists? By spending countless hours criticizing a quip by one of the few conservatives who call these commies to the carpet, and ignoring the fact that hundreds of school districts across America are teaching schoolkids about anal sex?

Medved, you can have the GOP you want, it just won't include those of us who "push them away because they fail to measure up to our own standards of indignation and ideological purity". That's right, the same voters like me who helped steer the GOP away from Rockefeller Republicanism and into rock ribbed conservative Reaganism. Who gladly pulled the lever for GWB twice, despite his lack of "purity", and who plugged our noses and voted for his father and Bob Dole.

Take your limp wristed bullsh*t elsewhere, Michael.

43 posted on 03/07/2007 6:56:48 AM PST by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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Terrific article!


46 posted on 03/07/2007 6:58:03 AM PST by BunnySlippers (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT 2008)
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Good article. Thanks for posting it.


49 posted on 03/07/2007 6:58:48 AM PST by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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MadIvan,

Good article... but I do take exception from yet another conservative commentatory talking about pandering and compromise this far before the primary.

I would prefer our leaders focus on reality... Catholics make up 25% of the US population and Protestants are over 50%. Rather than focusing on pandering to minority groups, we should be having VALUES discussions regarding those issues which matter the most to more than 75% of Americans.

One of those values that needs to be highlighted over and over is abortion. The Democrat Party Platform advocates for legal abortion. The GOP Platform has an entire article on the sanctity of life. I shouldn't have had to find this out myself--this should be shouted from the rooftops! Overwhelmingly, Americans do not want abortion. The only way it polls well is when the MSM make it an issue of medicine or choice... not when it's a matter of life and death.

If we truly want to win in 2008, leave the abortion-supporters behind and hit hard at our first liberty as enshrined in the Declaration of Independence. Sound the clarion call our Founding Fathers sounded that all men are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights; "that among these are life..."--without which no other right is exercisable.


55 posted on 03/07/2007 7:03:27 AM PST by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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Before we speak or take any action we should always consider how the left will react and/or make hay of it...NOT!

Sure, Ann made a mistake. But one thing I'd never do is apologize to the perps.

67 posted on 03/07/2007 7:08:15 AM PST by BufordP (I'd comment on the Democratic Party candidates, but I'm afraid I'd be forced into rehab.)
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We should ask a crucial question before we speak or act: will this draw people to conservative ideas and ideals, or will it serve to turn them off and push them away?

I call BS on this statement.
It's impossible to no matter how careful we are with our speech to not offend those who are looking to be offended.
The libs have successfully linked the struggle for racial equality to the gay rights movement. Thus they have successfully linked using the N word to using the F word.
The fallacy of their logic must be constantly explained and Ann's humor works fine here.

68 posted on 03/07/2007 7:09:07 AM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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Good article. Medved got it right, IMO.


73 posted on 03/07/2007 7:13:11 AM PST by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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