[Lexinom]

It's ugly, and I don't like fighting with FRiends. I understand the desire to win, I understand the importance of the WOT. However I get the impression their own views are rather myopic in that they don't see the larger historical persective, how electing a man, however eloquent, however likeable, with Giuliani's character deficiences effectively sanctions the very worst of Western culture - the very things that make the WOT worth fighting in the first place.

I an shocked by what someone posted earlier (may have been you) about the U.S. building or helping to build Iraq and Afganistan's first abortion clinics. That is precisely the kind of thing we do not want to spread; it represents our dark side, something we need to be curtailing on our own soil, not sharing with the world. Is that, BTW, what others falsely equate to "women's rights" for Muslim women?

If our vision of the world is one where every country executes 1 out of every 5 children, we need to do some serious introspection and refactoring.

[mylife]

That was very well stated and well rationalized

[Siobhan]

However I get the impression their own views are rather myopic in that they don't see the larger historical persective, how electing a man, however eloquent, however likeable, with Giuliani's character deficiences effectively sanctions the very worst of Western culture - the very things that make the WOT worth fighting in the first place.

Exceptionally well said.

[voltaires_zit]

> I an shocked by what someone posted earlier (may have
> been you) about the U.S. building or helping to build
> Iraq and Afganistan's first abortion clinics.

It'd be even more shocking if it wasn't bull%$@#.

US government funds can't be used for abortions or even used by people who mention the word abortion outside the US.

[StAnDeliver]

"shocked by what someone posted earlier (may have been you) about the U.S. building or helping to build Iraq and Afganistan's first abortion clinics."

That was in Mark's post of the article itself, perhaps he can provide an additional link.

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

electing a man, however eloquent, however likeable, with Giuliani's character deficiences effectively sanctions the very worst of Western culture - the very things that make the WOT worth fighting in the first place.

More than just sanctions--it puts someone with these ethics into the position of Franchisor. But there are no franchise royalties for the 'disenfranchised,' who are kept as voting-cannon-fodder by and for the elitists who manipulate them.

[TAdams8591]

It would be horribly tragic if we won the WOT but were defeated from within.

I don't know why we should settle for a candidate who will fight to win the WOT but escalate the chances for defeat at home, when there is/are candidates who can win and are willing to fight both.