No deal, Rudy

Catholic Online ^ | 3/6/2007

[gpapa]

I thank you for the list of excuses why Rudy should never be the Republican nominee.

[Artemis Webb]

No you don't...but have a good night also.

[Siobhan]

I appreciate your kindness. I'll be seeing you around FR. Now it is late. Good night!

[upsdriver]

"Hillary presidency would serve you right, but pity the country."

Okay, say Rudy wins and Hillary loses. Now we have two pro abortion political parties and no one to stand up for millions of innocent babies. Pity the country?

[Waryone]

Rudy’s deal: He’ll promise not to push the pro-abortion agenda, and he’ll nominate judges in the mold of Samuel Alito and John Roberts. Pro-lifers in the Republican Party in return would support him, but keep insisting that the party stay pro-life, and fight our fiercest pro-life battles at the state level, where they belong.

I've had misgivings about this promise Mr. Giuliani has made. Let's say by some miracle he's the republican nominee.

The vote in the South will be depressed because of all of the Soros funded billboards showing Rudy in a dress surrounded by his own words about confiscating guns, and supporting abortion, gay rights, and amnesty for illegals.

More liberals, democratic and republican, will be elected forcing the make up of the house and senate to be even more liberal than it is now. Even if he is elected and nominates someone of the quality of Janice Rogers Brown, it will not matter, because the liberals, democratic and republican, in the senate will not confirm the nominee.

After making a show of doing his best, he'll finally say 'guys we tried but it's not working.' Then he'll nominate someone who thinks like he does.

As for not pushing pro-abortion agenda, he won't have to. There will be plenty of democrats and liberal republicans in Congress to do it for him and they will be emboldened to do so because they have Rudy as president. They know that he agrees with them in his heart. If it's not abortion, it will be gay rights, or amnesty, or second amendment issues.

I can't help but see this as a heads libs win, tails conservatives lose situation.

[arthurus]

"the spawn of Satan" elected rather than vote for Rudy Giuliani?

Rather than???

[upsdriver]

"What exactly is a "Black Church?""

It's a place where white liberals go so they can "feel" religious. Usually during a time preceding an upcoming election. Hope this helps!

[jmc813]

I can guarantee you there are a lot more disruptor's of threads that are pro Rudy than there are Rudy supporters who disrupt threads supporting Duncan Hunter.

Uhhhh, that's because we're on a conservative forum. Hunter is conservative and Rudy ain't. What kind of twisted logic would dictate otherwise?

[jmc813]

To be fair to Giuliani, he's on the right side of law and order

Being a gun grabber is "on the right side of law and order"?

[fatima]

(((Hugs))) Never answer .Did you curse me out,heeheee.

[Carry_Okie]

I believe you are saying his position on abortion is not an issue for you, but his gun control positions are vis-a-vis the Second Amendment which should mobilize us as a nation to the defense of our homeland. Is that right?

No, abortion is an issue for me. However, it's obviously not an issue for GOP "moderates." They claim Rudy's policy preferences and personal character will make him such an effective president in the War on Terror that his other baggage pales by comparison.

Accordingly, I'm pointing out that one of his policy prefereces to which conservatives also object, gun control, is counterproductive in the WOT, not to mention its inherent perils to life and freedom that have been repeated throughout history.

[takenoprisoner]

There are two man eating tigers on the loose. But one consumes less human flesh than the other. By catholic logic, the less flesh eating tiger gets a temporary pass. Now that is a stretch of immensly flawed and wrongful convictions. The premise itself is based on a losing proposition regardless of the outcome. In this case, eventually the less flesh eating tiger, will at his leisure, consume you anyway.

No thanks. I'll pass.

[MHGinTN]

Actually they go to pander and manipulate the 'darkies' -vote slaves for the democrats- when they need them for something like image or votes ... how else should one characterize the Rodham-rodent dialect insutls she was invited by black preachers to deliver in Selma Black Churches?

[upsdriver]

Wasn't that amazing! To me, Hillary was being totally racist. And the congregation laps it all up. They are very discriminating in choosing who offends them and who doesn't. Liberals treat blacks like second class citizens and are loved for doing it.

[fatima]

I pass on both the tigers too.

[TAdams8591]

Liberalism has contaminated much in the United States including our pop culture, full of materialism and decadence, which we export to many countries all over the globe. Your position is not at all unreasonable.

I thought it interesting during Oprah's travels to some of the poorest areas in Africa, the children knew Brittany Spears and many times asked Oprah about her.

[fatima]

Insulting post.

[TAdams8591]

"and we weren't supposed to impose OUR morality on THEM"

A perceptive comment that is true in more ways than one.

[Siobhan]

We are not talking about tigers. We are talking about political candidates and Catholic teaching. Your point is not served by your illustration with tigers.

[narses]

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Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue	Giuliani	Clinton	Dem Platform	GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion	Supports Opposed NY ban	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Roe v. Wade	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Defined at state level	Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Openly Gay Military	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Supports bans	Supports
Confiscating Guns	Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged.	Supports	Supports Supports bans	Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban	Supports	Supports	Supports
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers	Supports Filed One Himself	Supports		Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses	Supports	Supports		Opposes
War in Afghanistan	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports	Supports
War in Iraq	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports Weak support	Supports
Patriot Act	Supports	Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006	Opposes	Supports

"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani

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Rudy Giuliani

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