Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Newt and None of the Above Talk of CPAC
Human Events ^ | March 4 2007 | John Gizzi

Posted on 03/04/2007 9:05:30 AM PST by Reagan Man

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-86 next last
To: Carry_Okie

SO?


61 posted on 03/04/2007 10:21:51 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: TheLion; AuntB; Dog Gone
SO?

Well I see you demand a rather unpleasant education. Very well.

Read it and weep, but just to make you clear about the seriousness of the gist, this quote from the leader to the article is by David Horowitz:

It is with a heavy heart therefore, that I am posting this article, which is the most complete documentation extant of Grover Norquist’s activities in behalf of the Islamist Fifth Column.

Go ahead and ignore this if you want. Given Newt's long association with Norquist, if you think this can't be used against Newt to serious effect, you're smoking something.
62 posted on 03/04/2007 10:35:46 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: Carry_Okie

Asked "who would be your first choice to be the Republican nominee for president," CPAC attendees responded as follows: Romney 21%, Giuliani 17%, Sen. Brownback of Kansas 15%, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich 14%, and Sen. McCain of Arizona 12%.


63 posted on 03/04/2007 10:36:55 PM PST by CWOJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: CWOJackson
CPAC isn't what it used to be.

Give it time.

64 posted on 03/04/2007 10:41:22 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: Carry_Okie

So, Muslims are everywhere in our society. Obama Huessein Barrack is a former Muslim. I think some direction from you would be more appropiately pointed at him.


65 posted on 03/04/2007 10:48:16 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: TheLion
So, Muslims are everywhere in our society.

I wouldn't rely upon that as an argument here on FreeRepublic.com if I were you. You see, these aren't just any old Muslims. Best you read the article carefully, especially because neither Gaffney nor Horowitz is a flaky source of information.

Norquist is heavly associated with both Newt and Rudy. He's also an open borders lobbyist. There is no getting away from the fact that both of these Republican candidates will be associated with his record. It isn't inconsequential.

If I ever see you pull this kind of loudmouth challenge again, you're going to get your nose rubbed into quotes from these articles until your credibility is shot. Have a nice evening, reading I hope.

66 posted on 03/04/2007 10:57:03 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: SierraWasp; dfwddr; editor-surveyor; B Knotts; Carry_Okie; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; bushfamfan

You asked about Hunter and the environment. This is something I put together last weekened that may give you some idea.

Do you think I should post it as a vanity?

Links here: http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2007/02/duncan-hunter-champion-of-property.html

DUNCAN HUNTER Champion of Property Rights and Real Free Trade!

Those of us who have been involved in property rights battles appreciated Helen Chenoweth-Hage. What a great loss to all of us due to her untimely fatal accident last year. Talk about your dream ticket for the presidential race. Duncan Hunter and Helen together would have been too much to hope for!


A poster from Idaho, Helen's home state, on a polictical forumstates:

"We are very particular about our conservatives.We like principles and backbone. We elected Helen Chenoweth/Hage and Bill Sali. Helen loved Duncan Hunter and spoke of him often, that is why I loved him before he ever decided to run."

Helen and Duncan had a great appreciation for each other and accomplished much while they were both in congress, especially protecting private property rights.

It was announced this week that the Mt. Soledad Cross, which the ACLU sued to have removed, will in fact remain per the Supreme Court, largely due to the actions of Duncan Hunter.


In a field hearing held by COMMITTEE ON RESOURCES on the Endangered Species act in 1999 in Hemmet, California, Chenoweth and Hunter were in the forefront to protect the average American citizen property owner. They questioned, with little mercy, the bureaucrats who through archaic regulations and unnecessary paperwork were thwarting use of private land by it's legitimate owners. Hunter's comments speak for themselves.

Mr. HUNTER: I think that shows some of the misguided policies, and, Mr. Chairman, I think this falls on our back as well as those of the Administrators. In this effort that is to protect the environment and the perversion that I think we have made of some of the regulations, we have actually damaged the environment. We have massive traffic jams that are a result of people not being able to afford homes in the areas where they work.
One reason they cannot afford homes is because we are protecting their environment in the communities where they work. So we have them put out tons of smog on the freeway to get 60 miles away where they can afford a home.
So I think that working America has a real stake in seeing to it that we pull back regulation, make it more reasonable and make it more applicable to folks like the gentleman who was in here, Mr. Turecek. I do not know if you saw him, but average people that have pieces of land that they want to develop, to give them a fighting chance at it.
Mr. Kading, I appreciate all of the witnesses, but I especially appreciate you being here and laying out the perspective of a working man."

Recently, Hunter has stated this concerning property rights and the Kelo property rights/eminent domain decision by the Supreme Court:

"I am deeply concerned with the Supreme Court’s 5-4 decision greatly broadening local government’s use of eminent domain in Kelo vs. New London and believe it is important that Congress protect the property rights of private landowners and curb the government from excessive regulatory takings. It is for this reason that I voted in favor of expressing the grave disapproval of the House of Representatives regarding the majority opinion in the Kelo case.

Additionally, I cosponsored H.R. 3268 , the Eminent Domain Tax Relief Act of 2005, which abolished the capital gains tax on private property taken by the government through eminent domain. I also voted in favor of a legislative amendment offered to H.R. 3058, the FY2006 Transportation, Treasury, Housing and Urban Development, the Judiciary, the District of Columbia, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, prohibiting federal funding from being used to improve or construct infrastructure support on lands acquired through the use of eminent domain of private property for private development."


Hunter was awarded the American Farm Bureau Federation Friend of Farm Bureau award for the 105th Congress. The "Friend of Farm Bureau" is given each session of Congress to those members of Congress who were nominated by their respective state Farm Bureau and approved by the American Farm Bureau Federation Board of Directors.

Helen and Duncan worked on other projects such as controlling trade agreements like Nafta and getting out of the World Trade Organization.

Afta NAFTA - "GOP sponsors of the NAFTA Accountability Act in the 104th Congress included such high-profile conservatives as Duncan Hunter, Zach Wamp, Helen Chenoweth, and Gerald Solomon. In a speech before Congress on March 12, 1996, Hunter claimed that between one and five million jobs had been lost to corporate downsizing over the past three years. "We seem to be giving our own country away" through NAFTA, GATT, the World Bank, and foreign adventurism, he said: "billions and billions to other countries while our own people head for the unemployment office or have to settle for jobs in fast-food restaurants."

From March 27, 2000: Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) has managed to win seven co-sponsors so far for a resolution that he introduced earlier this month calling on the United States to withdraw from the World Trade Organization. Responding to the congressman's call to co-sponsor the measure, issued in a letter March 10, have been Reps. Helen Chenoweth (R-Idaho), Duncan L. Hunter (R-Calif.)........

This morning we read an article about Diane Alden, who has been an important journalist in the property rights battle and conservatism in general.

The bio on Adlen states, " Diane's heroes include Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul II, Joan of Arc, St. Padre Pio, Lou Dobbs, the Minutemen, Phyllis Schlafly, Helen Chenoweth-Hage, Barbara Cubin, George Putnam, Marc Bernier, Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Jeff Sessions, Mark Kirkorian, Frank Gaffney, Steve Farrell, Peter Brimelow, William Hawkins, her dad Neil Alden, as well as the unsung heroes who have blogged and supported real conservatism and American interests as opposed to the partisan or corporate variety. Most particularly her heroes include the men and women of the Armed Forces of the United States who lay it on the line every single day." [snip]


67 posted on 03/05/2007 7:38:07 AM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: AuntB; SierraWasp

Thanks! That helps a lot. If Helen liked him on property rights, he must be pretty good.


68 posted on 03/05/2007 7:54:06 AM PST by B Knotts (Newt '08! FReepmail me to get on the Newt '08 Ping List)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: editor-surveyor

I don't see McCain as a viable candidate either. I threw his bogus questionnaire in the trash. Same for the one I got from the GOP.


69 posted on 03/05/2007 7:56:04 AM PST by Froufrou
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: SierraWasp

And they're setting up training camp in Wimberley, TX, the biggest hippie-pacifist enclave in the free world!


70 posted on 03/05/2007 7:59:55 AM PST by txhurl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: AuntB

Thanks AuntB.

Yes, you should post it for all to read.


71 posted on 03/05/2007 8:09:07 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: TheLion

Links? What are you, an internet juke box?

We have Newt's past record in congress to judge by. He did every thing he could to aid illegal immigration, while thwarting true conservative congressmen like Bob Dornan at every turn.


72 posted on 03/05/2007 8:12:14 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: TheLion

You are in deep dark denial.


73 posted on 03/05/2007 8:25:19 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: AuntB; Jim Robinson; Carry_Okie; B4Ranch; calcowgirl
"Do you think I should post it as a vanity? "

Absolutely! And I strongly believe God will bless you when you do!!!

74 posted on 03/05/2007 8:34:10 AM PST by SierraWasp (Get the Recall petition papers ready for signing up to Recall Arnold in the Feb. 2008 Primary!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: SierraWasp
Absolutely! And I strongly believe God will bless you when you do!!!

Thanks! I'm going to need all I can get of that!

75 posted on 03/05/2007 8:39:01 AM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: AuntB; editor-surveyor; dirtboy; Spiff
If you don't already have them, you might find the links in Posts 60 and 62 useful to you.

Giuliani is just as tight with Norquist as is Newt, and will wear the same dirt when the time comes. The people who believe in a 9-11 conspiracy will be all over it.

76 posted on 03/05/2007 8:43:19 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: txflake; Grampa Dave; Dog Gone

Can you keep FreeRepublic.com posted on their mischeivious and malicious mischeif, please? We may need to develope a ping list for this subject subversive activity as well. This can and probably will grow into something big and nasty and I think we should help the FBI watch it as it grows, don't you???


77 posted on 03/05/2007 8:47:20 AM PST by SierraWasp (Get the Recall petition papers ready for signing up to Recall Arnold in the Feb. 2008 Primary!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: Carry_Okie; AuntB
Carry_Okie is right on the money with this! AuntB, C.O. sparked my interest in Duncan Hunter and now you have simply inflamed my intense interest in him reaching the Whitehouse at the earliest possible date!!!

Both of you keep on keepin on... PLEASE!!!

78 posted on 03/05/2007 8:50:59 AM PST by SierraWasp (Get the Recall petition papers ready for signing up to Recall Arnold in the Feb. 2008 Primary!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: Carry_Okie; editor-surveyor; dirtboy; Spiff


The Club for Growth and the 2008 Presidential Race - Know thy enemy

[snips]


You be the judge, is the ‘Clubs’ analysis of Hunter even remotely indicative of reality? If what they convey here is true, they admit they do not agree with just about 2/3 of republicans voting in congress.

So who does the ‘Club for Growth’ agree with? One of the bills they faulted Duncan for voting for was a transportation bill. Republican congressmen voted 218 to 9 for it. Is Club for Growth representing the republican base or something else?

"The Club for Growth is a section 527 political organization and an affiliated political action committee that raises money for candidates who support an anti-tax and limited-government agenda. It was created by former Cato Institute fellow Stephen Moore. "

Stephen Moore. That’s a name anyone involved in the battle to secure our nations borders needs to know. And where you find Moore, you find Grover Norquist and Newt Gingrich and common agendas. Often, those agendas are not 'conservative'.

Moore has written articles in favor of increased immigration to the U.S., and has debated against immigration restrictionists. In one article, Moore favorably cited a speech at Cato by Rep. Dick Armey, R-TX, who said he believes the U.S. "should be thinking about increasing legal immigration." Moore worked on studies for the wing immigration advocacy group, the National Immigration Forum, which favors amnesty for illegal aliens.

In 1996, Moore along with Grover Norquist helped defeat any measures aimed at enforcement in an immigration reform bill.

Marcus Stern describes Moores involvement in an award winning article.

The coalition was a juggernaut that fought virtually any verification initiative. Because Republicans control Congress, conservative lobbyists were especially influential. The fact that some limited, voluntary verification projects stayed in the bill at all outraged some conservatives.

"I view it as the camel's nose under the tent for a national ID card," said Stephen Moore, an economist with the Cato Institute who lobbied against the bill. "The theme we played to Republicans was that if you're trying to roll back big government, you shouldn't be instituting this new police-state power."

Social conservatives like Norquist and libertarians like Moore don't see illegal immigration as a major problem.

"Illegal immigration is part of the price we pay for being both a prosperous and a free country, and I'm not willing to sacrifice some of our freedoms to try to keep out immigrants, especially when I don't think it's going to work very well," said Moore.

He added that spending $3 billion-plus a year to fund the Immigration and Naturalization Service "probably is a waste of money. But this is a political issue. And the way you deal with illegal immigration is you increase the INS budget. It doesn't do a lot, but at least politicians on both sides can go home and say, `Well, how can you say I'm not doing anything about immigration? I increased the INS budget.' "

What you don't do, he said, is involve employers in enforcement.

"Sometimes in politics you pass feel-good measures," Moore said. "And that's not necessarily a bad thing. Passing a bill that's mostly window dressing is a way of defusing public alarm about something. And in states like California, illegal immigration is perceived as a big problem."

Working closely with Stephen Moore of the Cato Institute, Cesar Conda (former domestic advisor to Dick Cheney) circulated a statement against Prop. 187 of California in the nineties.


Moore, along with Norquist, Newt Gingrich, Tamar Jacoby and other amnesty advocates penned a letter to the Wall St Journal proclaiming Bush’s guest worker plan as "a humane, orderly, and economically sensible approach to migration."

On September 19, 2005, the Federal Election Commission filed suit against the Club for Growth for violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act for failing to register as a political action committee in the 2000, 2002, and 2004 congressional elections.

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2007/02/club-for-growth-and-2008-presidential.html


79 posted on 03/05/2007 8:55:56 AM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: AuntB

Good post! Thanks.


80 posted on 03/05/2007 9:20:13 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-86 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson