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Rudy's Reception (at CPAC)
Townhall ^ | March 3, 2007 | Mary Katharine Ham

Posted on 03/03/2007 11:30:16 PM PST by FairOpinion

McCain-hating and Romney-bashing have been pretty much equal-opportunity pastimes around CPAC this year.

Rudy, on the other hand, has gotten mostly a free pass. And, today, his speech was filled to capacity with folks waiting in the hallway to get in. There were also dense crowds around all the TVs in the exhibit halls. The charm offensive is strong, indeed. People just love listening to him.

I took some video of conservatives quite mesmerized by the Mayor, so I'm working on getting that up. They were doing crowd control outside the hall in which he was speaking. Many of those folks crowding the hall are pro-life, social conservatives who just can't resist him, despite the policy differences. I don't think Rudy will remain unattacked, as he was this week, but the feel-good factor is big for him, no matter what kind of conservative he's talking to.

Today, he talked about leadership, security, toughness, and Reagan to a crowd who's looking for a leader in the image of Reagan in a time that needs security. It was a good pitch, and there were more people listening than have listened to anything at CPAC this week.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatives; cpac; duncanhunter; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; rudy
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To: Wombat101
I brought up Monty Python and the fact that many of their skits included men in dresses, but was told that Monty Python was stupid and pointless.

We are dealing with people who have zippo sense of humor but a hugely inflated sense of their own importance.

241 posted on 03/04/2007 11:02:52 AM PST by kellynch ("Our only freedom is the freedom to discipline ourselves." -- Bernard Baruch)
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To: politicalwit
Actually, it was "No New Taxes Bush" and "Bob Dole" that gave the country 8 years of Bill Clinton.

Reply:

Let me see if I can sort out what you are saying.

So are you either saying that you did or did not approve, did not care, voted for him or condoned others voting for that Napoleon megalomaniac H. Ross to punish Bush?

While seventeen million naiveté voters were in the process of punishing Bush, the rest of America had to suffer right along with them.

Votes do have consequences, a concept that airhead liberals and knot heads just do not understand.

I suppose some of the seventeen million will also argue that Bush 1 and Bob Dole were not principled enough conservatives for their delicate jihadists tastes.

These H. Ross revenge voters smugly gave us 8 years of Bill Clinton incompetence and thousands of dead Americans in terrorist’s attacks.

Clinton's total lack of retribution for the Saudi Embassy Bombings, USS Cole, and the Twin Towers made the world think we were weak.

Clinton's worry that killing Osama might make the French mad was supercalifragilisticexpialidocious great, bend over and take it, can't we all just get along international politics and Hellary has just promised more of the same incompetence a few days ago.

His cowardly incompetence in protecting America’s interest wound up hurting thousands of his fellow citizens but sure made many of those dictatorial politicians in the UN, Europe and the Middle East happy with Chicken Bill, Madam Alright and the U.S. State Department.

Yes, voter’s actions have consequences and those of seventeen million voters came home to roost on September 11, 2001.

Moreover, for what, revenge on one broken promise, Read My Lips, No New Taxes.

PS: I thought Bob Dole would have made a good solid Republican president.

JUST MY LOWLY RED STATE WANNABE OPINION
242 posted on 03/04/2007 11:34:06 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: narses
I can hardly read my once beloved FR anymore because of posts like yours and other's. So much hatred ! How are we ever to make a difference in our land with words like are used throughout FR ?

You remind me of crazed Pro Lifers standing outside an Abortion Clinic, shouting hate words at the girls walking in , instead of praying for them, opening up their home to them, helping them in any way you can.

Nope, not FR...we will crucify ANYONE who isn't RIGHT ENOUGH.........won't we ? It is just too bad that Free Republic has become what it has. We should all learn by it. We have a long way to go.

Post after post, thread after thread, we are fighting EACH OTHER !

What an example we are !

243 posted on 03/04/2007 11:57:45 AM PST by Neenah
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To: Neenah; Jim Robinson

"I can hardly read my once beloved FR anymore because of posts like yours and other's. So much hatred !"

What "hatred"?


244 posted on 03/04/2007 12:10:56 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: carlo3b
You, my friend, are nothing but A class act ! .

You restore my sadness to hope, just reading what you say.

Thank you.

245 posted on 03/04/2007 12:13:54 PM PST by Neenah
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To: Paleo Conservative

Is he going to run, is the question...


246 posted on 03/04/2007 12:23:41 PM PST by I_like_good_things_too (Don't make perfect the enemy of the good)
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To: paulat
Why isn't Hunter smart enough to get the apostrophe right in his own logo?

You are willing to overlook the fact that a RINO candidate supports abortion, the homosexual agenda, gun control, and illegal immigration, yet are astute enough to spot a typo on a real Conservatives' political logo?

Amazing!
247 posted on 03/04/2007 12:38:03 PM PST by loboinok (I'd rather vote for someone who understands and respects the Constitution)
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To: Howlin

you're stupid to claim that people who wanted someone other than Bush, like Keyes, who was just as good and MORE of a conservative, and was AGAINST immigration, and AGAINST McCain Fiengold...wanted Gore

but NOooo, we need to follow the party line and get Bush Jr!

He has one good thing, he fought back. And 75% of the vets on this site all called for a doubling of the trops before the war even started.

But then again, we could have had someone who fought back AND had more things going for him....

But, some people dont understand that part...


248 posted on 03/04/2007 12:38:43 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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To: FairOpinion

Another Post from the "Fifteen percent"


249 posted on 03/04/2007 12:39:13 PM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: All
One recent anti-Rudy poster stated the following:

"And if Rudy does get the nod, expect the MSM to open up the hype floodgates on the cross-dressing and the gay stuff -- oh, not condemning of course (wink) but how it's a big change, how will this play in the South, does this mean gay marriage is A-OK for the GOP."

MY REPLY: And if they do it will be countered with images of Rudy's heroism during and after 9/11 and most Americans will be DISGUSTED - at the MSM, NOT at RUDY.

The issue in 2008 will be the WOT - what with Iran's creeping closer to nukes and threatening the world. Not pull-out, but how to best change strategy and WIN.

Your statement implies that Southerners are stupid one-issue voters. Having lived in the Bible - Belt for 8 years I can tell you this is FAR from the truth. Its almost like you have been taken in by, and are repeating the MSM Koolaid mantra about this.

Southerners are the most patriotic of Americans, they know we are at war, they absolutely DESPISE the treasonous opposition like Murtha, and they know that Rudy is the one who will take the fight to the terrorists - and without a velvet glove a la Dubya in Iraq, but with brass knuckles.

Rudy's principled stance on judges and the 'socon' issues (ie. he is a constructionist who will appoint constructionist judges like Scalia and Roberts - confirmed by no less a Federalist Society Conservative luminary than Ted Olsen - combined with his tacit promise that he is not a 'crusader' on social issues but believes that they should be decided by the people's elected representatives is right in line with what 90% of 'socons' (like myself, for example) believe).

So the fact that he is not flip-flopping a la Mitt and trying to brownnose this group is also enhancing his image as a true leader - which he is - its funny how it is the Veterans here on FR who have been the first to catch on to that. Its a 'disturbance in the force' that we are highly attuned to, if you will. We can tell a real leader from a political poseur a mile away - and Rudy is a real leader.

Therefore Rudy will not meet significant opposition except from a tiny minority of 'no compromise any time any where' radicals who are squealing like stuck pigs around here the past few weeks because their tactics have found themselves marginalized.

I was open-minded on Rudy when the bashing started. Now, I am 100% behind him. Your misguided attempts at character assassination, and 'can't see the forest for the trees blindness' has had this effect on many, many Freepers - and on conservative voters across the country.

Contrary to the idiotic "Rudy=Hitlary" statements which even the biggest rube knows are BS, the difference between Rudy and Hitlary (besides that one will cut-and-run while the other will get tougher in the WOT) is that Hitlary is a doctrinaire crusading Marxist who will use the FULL power of her office to sign laws and appoint judges who will seek to limit and take away our rights as religious Americans, home-schoolers and 2nd Amendment backers - this will be THE FOCUS of her administration, NOT the WOT. She's waited nearly 40 years to implement Saul ALinsky's tactics for turing America into a Marxist-liberal state.

Rudy's priorities are straight - WOT is #1, - AND IF YOU GET NOTHING MORE OUT OF THIS POST, PLEASE GET THIS:

Rudy is a PRINCIPLED CONSERVATIVE who believes that the people should decide most of their social issues through their local elected representatives - and he will appoint conservative judges who have that philosophy - as opposed to Hitlary, who will appoint Ruth Bader Ginsburgs to every open Federal Judiciary Seat ACROSS THE NATION.

THAT is the real difference between Rudy and any national radical crusading left-wing Democrat who will run in 2008 (99% its Hitlary).

So look at this issue beyind out-of-context quotes made by Rudy when he was Mayor of a 5-1 LIBERAL city where he had to politically survive in order to save the City (which he did). He was THE most hated politician by the liberal limousine crowd that NY had ever seen. Does this sound like Rudy=Hitlary to you?

Get your gaze out of your navel and see the 'Big Picture'. Rudy is not a threat to conservatives, he will uphold local rights (especially through his judicial appointments), AND he will fight to protect this nation from a terrorist and a looming nuclear-terrorist peril. The alternative is to elect a Dem and concede defeat - HERE and ABROAD.

250 posted on 03/04/2007 12:42:18 PM PST by Al Simmons (Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican - Ronald Wilson Reagan's 11th Commandment)
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To: Neenah

I asked, What "hatred"?


{{{CRICKETS}}}


251 posted on 03/04/2007 1:01:54 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Al Simmons

"Rudy is a PRINCIPLED CONSERVATIVE who believes that ..."

Gun control is good,
Divorce is good,
Abortion is good,
Illegal immigrants are good,
"Gay rights" are good,
and on and on and on.....


No thanks Al.


252 posted on 03/04/2007 1:03:57 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: loboinok

Find a single post where I said I was supporting Giuliani.


253 posted on 03/04/2007 1:10:16 PM PST by paulat (I'd rather vote for someone who CAN ACTUALLY BE ELECTED)
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To: carlo3b
I am sorry my FRiend, but I once read all of your posts and links to get a better perspective on your point, but no longer.. your obsession with bashing Rudy has turned me off to your posts and tuned me out to your argument.. I am now suspect of your motives.. I am only watching you to warn my many FRiends on this board..

Thanks for the ping, carlo3b. I promise I will never falsely bash Mr. Guiliani. I may, however, tell you a truth or two about him you won't like.

254 posted on 03/04/2007 1:52:24 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: paulat
You make it clear that you support him in your posts on "Rudy" threads.

"Not this time. JimRob has put out a statement that we are not welcome here."

Who is the "we" you are referring to?
255 posted on 03/04/2007 2:24:24 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: loboinok
You make it clear that you support him in your posts on "Rudy" threads.

"Not this time. JimRob has put out a statement that we are not welcome here." Who is the "we" you are referring to?

O-O-O-K-A-Y...I will...speak...really slowly...so you...understand....

1) Pointing out idiocy from idiot posters does not mean I will vote for the man in question for President. I like to point out idiocy. It's fun. There's lots of fodder here.

2) The "we" I was referring to are the folks who like to point out idiocy, wherever we find it.

256 posted on 03/04/2007 2:33:19 PM PST by paulat (I'd rather vote for someone who CAN ACTUALLY BE ELECTED)
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To: paulat
2) The "we" I was referring to are the folks who like to point out idiocy, wherever we find it.

O-O-O-K-A-Y...I will...speak...really slowly...so you...understand....

You missed one!
257 posted on 03/04/2007 4:32:43 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Neenah; narses
I think your accusation of narses using hatred is misdirected. Narses has been civil and posted facts about Rudy's history. If it's hatred or uncivil discourse you are looking for, try Wombat101's comments.

In post 150 there's this subtle hint toward suicide..."Take those guns you fear losing and give yourself a .45 caliber root-canal."

In post 188 there's this loving comment about Christianity..."Fairness and honesty seem to have gone by the wayside (along with pragmatism) on these boards because they are invariably started and/or hijacked by the Perpetually-Panty-Bunched crowd, most of whom haven't a thought in their head that didn't originate in Scripture or from their extremely prejudiced and skewed view of factual American history."

It is fine that all Republicans don't prioritize their issues the same way, and debate about the importance of each is necessary, but assaults like those of Wombat101 and other pro-Rudy people are not conducive to keeping the party together.

Sincerely
258 posted on 03/04/2007 6:12:03 PM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: narses

That table says it all.

Rudy has every thing in common with Clinton, but we should embrace him because he has a "R" behind his name?

His "R" is for RINO.


259 posted on 03/04/2007 7:11:38 PM PST by Barnacle (Duncan Hunter '08!)
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To: AuntB

.. :)


260 posted on 03/04/2007 8:21:27 PM PST by carlo3b ("I find the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have."--Thomas Jefferson)
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