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Is Driving Rinos out of the GOP Good for the Country? Thought-Provoking Must-Read for Rudy-Haters.
FR | April 16, 2002 | Common Tator

Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons

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To: Registered
Sigh, all that polish, all that wax, all the time spent making it look good. Over the cliff it goes!

And the liberal-supporting pukes drove it right over that cliff.

621 posted on 02/28/2007 1:05:01 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Fierce Allegiance
He sumitted a lettter to his draft board to avoid military service.

You are quite an accomplished liar.

622 posted on 02/28/2007 1:05:13 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Howlin
We will lose but they'll still have their issue.

The flavor of the month is abortion, illegal immigration is so yesterday it seems, Iraq is not on their radar, and 9/11 never happened.

623 posted on 02/28/2007 1:05:29 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, someone earlier said that you had stated that you WOULD vote for Giuliani IF he were the nominee.

Now I don't recall reading such a statement, but then, how many threads can I read in a day?

Would you mind telling us whether this is your position on the matter?

Thanks!

624 posted on 02/28/2007 1:05:36 PM PST by Al Simmons (Why Rudy in 2008? Because National Security should not be left to children.)
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To: Registered
Saddens me to see your name Registered....

..so many happy memories from your creative mind...you've given us much to chuckle over ...

..now we disagree strongly....and the words are hurtful

625 posted on 02/28/2007 1:05:49 PM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!...)
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To: Reagan Man

Snideness is your forte, I see.


626 posted on 02/28/2007 1:05:52 PM PST by Carolinamom (Whatever you voted for, you did not vote for failure -- President Bush SOTU)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

LOL!


627 posted on 02/28/2007 1:05:52 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: harrowup
ROFL
628 posted on 02/28/2007 1:06:02 PM PST by Peach
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To: Rex Anderson
The Westboro Baptist conservatives here will vote against Rudy before they vote for anyone else, but that's okay.

Hey thats real clever, and I'm sure felt real good to post, but I doubt it's a good strategy for winning hearts & minds for Rudy.

I was leaning towards Hunter, posts like this have the effect of a good shove between the shoulder blades.

629 posted on 02/28/2007 1:06:12 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Jim Robinson

FWIW, surely you have noticed that some FReepers who claim to agree with us on Conservative issues have been posting comments that are inflamatory, arrogant, hateful, and downright rude. Personally, I do not want to be associated with those sort of people as I feel they do more harm than good to the conservative cause. With FRiends like these, who needs enemies.


630 posted on 02/28/2007 1:06:36 PM PST by Chena
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To: BigSkyFreeper

And yet Jim wrote a vanity before the November elections telling us that the WOT was the most important thing.

I guess it's not just politicians who expect us to have amnesia.


631 posted on 02/28/2007 1:07:19 PM PST by Peach
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To: Al Simmons

After what JR has posted about RG, he could never vote for him, even against Hillary, because to him Hillary is more conservative (she used to be a Republican).


632 posted on 02/28/2007 1:07:36 PM PST by Rex Anderson
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To: Howlin
Not to worry, EV; all the information on you from CP is safe at a secluded spot; it's still "out there."

Spoken like a true Clown.

633 posted on 02/28/2007 1:07:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: Howlin

Sorry, silly, your transferrrence won't cut it with us! LOL, keep trying, keep lying.


634 posted on 02/28/2007 1:07:37 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (RINO = Rudy Is Not Ours!)
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To: Howlin

CP would be cracking up laughing at this thread! How many posters on this thread are retreds from the past and now have free reign to say anything they want?


635 posted on 02/28/2007 1:07:49 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com)
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To: Spiff
Another Rudyite admits to being opposed to the Republican Party Platform. He calls it "drivel" and "garbage" and admits to wanting liberal Rudy to hijack the party so that the liberals in the party can "clean that mess back up". I've never seen a fifth column troll so openly expose their anti-conservative agenda on this conservative forum. This debate is really drawing the rats out of their filthy holes.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Especially that last sentence. Ever since Arnold ran in 2003, the liberal FReepers have been shining their RINO lights brightly. Now with Rudy running for Prez, we're gonna see how far these liberal FReepers will go in advancing a fellow liberal for POTUS. Conservative FReepers need to watch their backs at all times.

636 posted on 02/28/2007 1:08:05 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: skeeter
If we're unable to honestly assess the mood of the country, and rally behind a leader acceptable to the majority, we'll lose. As of this thread, it seems that conservativism in general doesn't care about doing either of those things.

Good grief, what a helluva way to select the leader of the free world... You are right though, the party IS in trouble.

We're in trouble because we're fragmented and emotional. I've been teaching people and teams a high risk trade for a long time, and I know this for certain. Once you lose your emotional detachment, and forget the parameters of the game out of anger and frustration, you're defeating yourself. Our opponents are incompetent, but our internal divisions are razor sharp. They'll hand the left a victory they could never win otherwise.

Put aside all of your wants in a leader. Think of what America, right, then left, then center, is looking for. Not in general, but right now. 2007. The election will fall to whichever side capitalizes on the current mood of the nation. If we can't honestly assess that mood, and field a candidate along those lines, we, according the system enacted by our Founding Fathers, will lose.

So stop thinking like fanatics, and start thinking like chessplayers, or be ready to nurse a string of principaled defeats.

637 posted on 02/28/2007 1:08:18 PM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: skeeter
Hey thats real clever, and I'm sure felt real good to post, but I doubt it's a good strategy for winning hearts & minds for Rudy.

Calling the person sitting next to you a murderous, treasonous, gun grabbing, baby killer, ain't gonna win over and smiles or a handshake either.

638 posted on 02/28/2007 1:08:38 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: skeeter
I was leaning towards Hunter, posts like this have the effect of a good shove between the shoulder blades.

************

Excellent. :)

639 posted on 02/28/2007 1:08:52 PM PST by trisham (Hunter for president!)
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To: skeeter
Funny you should say that, you should read what Fierce Alliance posted. Oh wait, he had it removed. Anyway, it was very Westboro Baptist.
640 posted on 02/28/2007 1:09:30 PM PST by Rex Anderson
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