Is Driving Rinos out of the GOP Good for the Country? Thought-Provoking Must-Read for Rudy-Haters.

FR | April 16, 2002 | Common Tator

[Guenevere]

Howlin....sometimes we agree, sometimes disagree, but usually we are friendly with each other.

Compromise is never the answer.

And some who are strongly suggesting/or coercion by guilt ...that many here at FR should abandon our deep rooted and long held beliefs for a Rudy Guiliani or someone like him who has the same world view, ie, abortion, gay rights, gun control...etc...

.. would be unconscionable!!

..we cannot & will not do this.

I am saddened by the divisiveness this very important issue has created...

..and I am troubled that many are aligning against our forum creator, Jim Robinson and attempting to divide this forum & create a Civil War.!!

[NinoFan]

Oh, save the drama. The name-calling has been a back and forth thing.

[Spiff]

Dismissing him as a liberal is just plain nonsense. The traditional Republican platform is a comfortable place for him. If you knew what a Republican is, you would know this.

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue	Giuliani	Clinton	Dem Platform	GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion	Supports Opposed NY ban	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Overturning Roe v. Wade	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Taxpayer Funded Abortions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Defined at state level	Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Openly Gay Military	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Supports bans	Supports
Confiscating Guns	Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged.	Supports	Supports Supports bans	Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban	Supports	Supports	Supports
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers	Supports Filed One Himself	Supports		Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses	Supports	Supports		Opposes
War in Afghanistan	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports	Supports
War in Iraq	Supports	Varies Voted for it	Supports Weak support	Supports
Patriot Act	Supports	Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006	Opposes	Supports

"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani

[Leatherneck_MT]

Nope, I haven't lost a thing. I've gotten the same thing for the last 8 years that we got from the previous 40 under the Dims. Nothing but tidbits and table scraps.

Nothing from Nothing = Nothing

[Howlin]

I haven't seen one person here supporting those issues you just posted; what I have seen is people supporting a candidate who claims he has changed and that they can support to keep the liberals out of control of all three branches of the goverment.

To claim they support those issues is disengenuous, at best.

[Jim Robinson]

B/S.

[Howlin]

Compromise is the ONLY answer because there are not enough of us to win an election.

Keep saying there are and you'll be in the minority forever.

And where will your principles get you then?

[M. Thatcher]

At the warp speed this forum is plunging into hell, I would say any day now.

Agreed. I actually think the plunge has already happened.

[Fierce Allegiance]

Damn, chump, what's got your knickers in such a twist today? You are really cruising with this nasty attitude.

You want to silence the bickering by bickering. WTF is up with that?

[BigSkyFreeper]

The problem is it's hard to track those nefarious endeavors, isn't it?

I gave up trying. He's spread himself thin.

[Howlin]

B/S what?

You are now claiming that all these people who have been here all these years fighting for conservative goals have now switched over?

Is that what you're saying?

[68 grunt]

... The name-calling has been a back and forth thing.

Yes, on the one side you have me, identifying fifth columnist disruptors, the California Ilk Herd and other individuals who I consider counter-productive, and on the other side you've got these individuals ripping apart great numbers of anonymous FReepers. I think my way is direct and allows the individual recourse, while these fifth columnists cowardly attempt their anonymous division. Cowardly, NinoFan, cowardly.

[Jim Robinson]

Spoken like a committed RINO.

[Peach]

Can you point me to one person advocating those things, or are you just engaging in more hyperbole because you don't like the Republican that is the frontrunner in America today among Republicans, Democrats and Moderates?

[Spiff]

These positions should be condemned not supported. I hope sanity is restored soon.

Amen! Sanity would be a good thing around here so that FReepers can organize behind the conservative candidates and not have to fight daily battles against the liberal infiltrators who support their liberal candidates and demoralize the supporters of the conservative candidates. Since when was there even a debate on this site that we support the conservatives and oppose the liberals? But that's what we've been going back and forth about for months now.

[Howlin]

And you want the RINOs out, right?

[Fierce Allegiance]

If you support the candidate, you support his positions. OK, I'd give you a mulligan on one, but that leaves a lot of negatives on Rudy's side you must directly support. Which would those be?

[Howlin]

Don't put words in my mouth; you've done that before and been proven a liar.

[Carolinamom]

Many Freepers and Republicans here are NOT in support of or arguing for liberal/socialists positions...., Jim. We are primarily concerned about terrorists and terrorism against THIS NATION.

While Presidents do have power of the veto, they do not make or abolish laws; the Supreme Court and Congress do that.

This nation at this time in its history does need strong leadership against a foe that is determined to kill us all. It is imperative, therefore, that we elect a Republican President because God knows a Democratic one will also lead to our destruction.

[Fierce Allegiance]

I asked you a fair question. Why won't you answer it, or does the premise hit too close to home? Can't wash that blood off your hands, huh?