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They added however that this study is important for public health reasons because between 10 and 20 per cent of people in Europe and North America take dietary supplements.

It's big business, and there's lots of money to be made scaring folks - just like hillary Care, global warming, etc. Take a few pills everyday and you'll never get old! Expect the vitamin companies to bury this story.

1 posted on 02/28/2007 2:45:18 AM PST by XR7
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I would equally expect the medical world to discount the benefits of herbal supplements over something created by Pfizer/Abbott/etc.

However, I am with you on the "take a few pills everyday...and everything will be rosey!" baloney. Nothing, herbal nor OTC/Rx, will fix what is bound to happen....like aging...can't escape it (darn it all!)

2 posted on 02/28/2007 2:50:13 AM PST by ZinGirl
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Watch out, this is Teddy Kennedy's cue to try for a national ban on supplements. He does that every few years.

Let's see him try to ban scotch...


3 posted on 02/28/2007 3:01:12 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Hunter/Rumsfeld 2008!])
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The problem is not with supplements themselves, but rather in taking them in such large doses.

The average American simply doesn't eat well enough to get the US RDA of certain vitamins and minerals. Modest supplementation is seen as the 'cost' of our rather nasty daily eating habits.

When you get into trouble is when you 'megadose' on them. The belief that 'if one is good, two is better' is common and is what leads to trouble.

For example, vitamins such A and E are fat soluable, which means that they stay in your body for extended periods of time. If you're storing more than your body requires, this can lead to problems.

The key is moderation.


4 posted on 02/28/2007 3:06:57 AM PST by MDspinboyredux
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I'd guess that sick people are more likely to take supplements, so, naturally, people that take supplements are at increased risk. What is the evidence of causality?


5 posted on 02/28/2007 3:10:06 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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Guess I should be dead. Take many antioxidants. 1200 IU vitamin E & 3 mg vitamin C daily for ~30 years, etc. Used to lecture on nutrition & wrote 3-part nutrition series for a local newspaper. Maybe I'll be in the next study ;-)


7 posted on 02/28/2007 3:18:46 AM PST by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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people taking antioxidants do not oxidize [or rust] properly and are prone to accumulation of deadwood, forest fires and spontaneous combustion.


8 posted on 02/28/2007 3:51:15 AM PST by GSlob
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I keep a tin can next to the computer and lick it whenever I feel an iron deficiency. It also stops rust from forming on my eyelids. And after I lick a hole in the can, I feed it to my goat.

I'm in perfect harmonic convergence with Gaia and Gore.


11 posted on 02/28/2007 4:13:07 AM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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I will continue to take my vitamins.

Keep in mind that the socialists in the EU are desperately trying to ban over the counter sales of vitamins.


13 posted on 02/28/2007 4:32:07 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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"Meta-analysis is a way of sifting through published studies against a quality standard that looks at a number of reliability criteria such as potential for bias. Then the ones that pass the standard are taken through a statistical process to find out if they are saying something consistently reliable."

Wow! Meta-analysis looks to me to have incredible potential for being able to skew results in absolutely any preconceived direction.

By simply adjusting the "reliability criteria" until you have the studies you do not like thrown out you can produce results to please anyone willing to pay for your study.

We have not seen the last of "Meta-analysis".


14 posted on 02/28/2007 4:37:07 AM PST by rgboomers (This space purposely left blank)
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This "study" is intended to discredit the use of supplementation. I know I have cured my RA with supplements. That was after my doctor had me on a serious course with drugs.

I've seen similar results in others.

The truth is we're all going to die. I just want to stay as healthy as long as possible.

Last night I saw a friend who has had a bout with cancer. She told me of a treatment she had and she warned that if any doctor ever told me to do it, I should turn and run the other way.

Pharmaceutical drugs have caused far more harm than any nutritional supplements.

15 posted on 02/28/2007 4:42:30 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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Wake me when cigs are good for you!


16 posted on 02/28/2007 4:44:27 AM PST by Graymatter
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I intend to live forever. So far, so good. ~Steven Wright


21 posted on 02/28/2007 5:19:18 AM PST by vietvet67
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The only proven miracle pill is good old aspirin.


26 posted on 02/28/2007 6:51:34 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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The key is moderation. A little extra Vitamin C does you good, a lot can kill you.


27 posted on 02/28/2007 6:58:55 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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They then went back and eliminated 21 of the trials, leaving only the "low-bias" ones.

Isn't this saying, they threw out the studies that didn't back up their desired outcome?

29 posted on 02/28/2007 7:21:55 AM PST by aimhigh
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bump


30 posted on 02/28/2007 7:25:41 AM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives incentivize people to do perverse things.--- Freeper gridlock)
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The vitamin companies are big businesses, to be sure, but the pharmaceutical companies are bigger. These companies and the medical lobby would love to see vitamins and mineral supplements placed under greater restrictions and limited to prescriptions from doctors. In this fight against more power being assumed by Washington, we are fortunate in that many liberals use vitamins and supplements and will put pressure on their representatives to oppose taking them off the open market.

Now if large numbers of liberals would only start carrying firearms for their self-defense, the gun control crowd would be stymied. The Second Amendment would become as sacrosanct as the First Amendment, and authorities would have to strain to find some reason to ban private ownership of modern artillery and combat aircraft.

31 posted on 02/28/2007 7:48:25 AM PST by Wallace T.
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thanks, bfl


35 posted on 02/28/2007 11:08:12 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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Fish oil increases the risk of hemorrhagic stroke and can interfere with blood clotting.


37 posted on 02/28/2007 11:53:43 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord shall be born as the seventh month dies.")
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I don't believe it.

The medical establishment doesn't want us treating ourselves.


39 posted on 02/28/2007 3:40:56 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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