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A Message to Rudy Giuliani and His Supporters (VANITY)
Self | February 23, 2007 | Alberta's Child

Posted on 02/23/2007 7:45:02 AM PST by Alberta's Child

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To: carton253

I realize all that, but there are still too many abortions taking place in this country. A lot more could/should be done.

LOL....I also realize there are tons of red tape for him to get thru, and maybe my expectations were too much, I was just hoping for it to be stopped altogether.

Becky


301 posted on 02/23/2007 10:47:54 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: You Dirty Rats
You clearly haven't got the slightest idea what the Statue of Liberty is all about.

The Statue of Liberty is about breaking the law?

The Statue of Liberty is about hospitals closing because of the burden of free medical care for illegals?

The Statue of Liberty is about meatpacker wages going from $19 per hour to $10 per hour in 25 years?

The Statue of Liberty is about using false Social Security numbers?

The Statue of Liberty is about penalizing businesses that follow the law?

The Statue of Liberty is about protecting Mexican fatcats?

The Statue of Liberty is about people coming into our country and refusing to assimilate?

The Statue of Liberty is about "Press 1 for English" and Mexican flags flying over our schools?

Let me tell you what the The Statue of Liberty is about, sparky. She's about Hyman Rickover.

You see, Hyman Rickover was born in 1900 in Poland and came to the U.S. with his parents in 1905. In 1918 he was the valedictorian at his high school and gave a commencement speech (in ENGLISH) that was well-regarded. He graduated from the Naval Academy in '22 as an engineer. After a engineering postings in the destroyer USS La Vallette (including, IIRC, chief engineer) and the battleship USS Nevada. Then he went to Columbia and got his masters (I suspect he wrote his papers for this degree in ENGLISH) and went on to spend four years in submarines, where he qualified for command. Insiders report he realized he was serving in the United States Navy, and that he communicated with the crew in ENGLISH, rather than Polish.

Further down the road, after WWII, Rickover was the father of the nuclear submarine and the architect of the Navy's entire nuclear program. He served as the head of nuclear reactors until retirement in 1982. Yes, that's right, he served as naval officer until he was 82 years old when he could have retired on a Vice Admiral's pension thirty years or more earlier. How's that for dedication to one's country.

Hyman G. Rickover was a kid who came through Ellis Island, and became a Chicagoan, an officer in the United States Navy, a respected engineer and one of the most powerful military men in our history. He was an American, not a Pole living in America, and he is what the Statue of Liberty is all about. Not amnesty, not welfare handouts, not broken schools, but assimilation, hard work, and dedication to American ideals.

If you think any activity involving a coyote and stolen SSN's has anything to do with the Staute of Liberty or any form of "welcoming," you are sadly mistaken.

302 posted on 02/23/2007 10:49:43 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Logic" is as meaningless to a liberal as "desert" is to a fish.--Freeper IronJack)
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To: LtdGovt
"The3 number of peoiple who have publically stated they will go third party rather then vote for Rino Rudy"

You can add me and my family to the above.

303 posted on 02/23/2007 10:49:53 AM PST by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: Hydroshock
The republican party does nto own my vote. I will vote for teh cnadidate who best reperesents my views, no matter his or her party. I can tell you this Rino Rudy does not and will never get my vote.

It's your vote and you can do whatever you want with it. I was replying to a poster who falsely suggested Rudy supporters were withdrawing the welcome mat for the Republican Party.

304 posted on 02/23/2007 10:50:02 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: TommyDale
"I have not decided on a candidate at this early point in the campaign. It will not be Giuliani, however, under any circumstances."

Well you better start now. Because of the money game and the moving up of Giuliani-friendly big State primaries, according to experts this be be over this fall. Be fair, give us Rudy-ites an equal chance to trash your pristine candidate.
305 posted on 02/23/2007 10:50:02 AM PST by Gop1040
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To: LtdGovt

Okay, it was a joke. You are correct about me, however. I will definitely vote a 3rd party if Giuliani is the GOP nominee. No question on that whatsoever.


306 posted on 02/23/2007 10:50:33 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: Lakeshark

No, I am not, but I guessed who the worst female governor in the country would be, and the answer was immediately clear to me.


307 posted on 02/23/2007 10:51:20 AM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: CindyDawg
People should vote for who they please.

Agreed.

No one should be trying to change anyone's opinion.

What!:). What's the point of this forum, what's the point of campagning, what's the point of debate?

More then anything we should be trying to change the minds of people who support someone who supports abortion, gun control, and gay rights.

Becky

308 posted on 02/23/2007 10:51:40 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Gop1040
"Well you better start now."

Why is that necessary now? The first primary isn't until next February. Even Newt Gingrich won't enter until September or October. By then Rudy Giuliani and McCain will have unraveled.

309 posted on 02/23/2007 10:52:22 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: You Dirty Rats
ROFLMAO

Evidently some FReeper posters are not Rush Limbaugh fans either.

Paraphrasing: "Rush just said that those who threaten to sit out the coming election if they don't get the right candidate are naivete and do not understand politics in America."
310 posted on 02/23/2007 10:52:23 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, Dims Gone Wild, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: CindyDawg
I should have added, Do your best to change minds, but it should/can be kept civil.

Becky

311 posted on 02/23/2007 10:52:46 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: penowa
You can add me and my family to the above.

If so, then you are making a mockery of your tagline: "(NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!"
312 posted on 02/23/2007 10:53:21 AM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Alberta's Child
Probably the best written vanity of the past year. You are charitable to the arguements on the otherside without drastically mistating them just to have a straw-man and your comments are sincere and reasoned.

I kind of like this Guilliani guy, the way I like a well made chocolate cake: Its bad for me, but I may indulge in it anyway. However, his personal appeal aside, there is no way I can support him in a primary. I must actually support those that can carry forward principle that I believe are best for the nation.

McCain's nomination is one of the few things that might cause me not to vote at all -- shear disgust. I don't know what I will do if Fred Thompson doesn't run as I think he is the only guy with the recognition to take the wind out of the sails of the early announced group.

313 posted on 02/23/2007 10:54:02 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I have no idea what you are talking about. I was replying to the vanity poster concerning his claim that NYC is not an American City. All those points you made to me are a waste of bandwidth, because I never mentioned anything about any of them.

I was merely stating that the idea NYC is not an American City is ridiculous. NYC has always welcomed immigrants, including all of my ancestors.


314 posted on 02/23/2007 10:54:04 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
That's kind of the same thing I think about the gun control thing...why give the opposing side even the slightest chance to get into power on such an important issue....

Because at this point, I think it's Rudy or a Democrat who will not even have the nagging guilt about irritating the base.

FR talks about a few alternative candidates, but at this point, no one outside FR even knows who they are. If they can catch up, great, more power to them, but at this point truly 'national' caliber candidates are few and far between.

On gays and abortion, I know when I say I just don't think it makes a difference, many here don't agree. But I'd be lying if I tried to pretend I cared more. I just really am pretty bored and unthreatened by gay rights issues... as are my two lesbian friends, who, I might add, are ex military (one of them anyway), are avid hunters and gun nuts, always vote for Republicans because they are very supportive of the WOT, and couldn't care less about marriage issues. I think the politics of gayness will be argued no matter what, and be just as tiresome no matter who wins this time around. It's a symptom of our time, and no president is going to make it go away because he has a negative view of it. Blech... enough said. It bores me. I just don't care. :~)

315 posted on 02/23/2007 10:54:04 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Gop1040

And before you jump to the conclusion that I am a Newt supporter, he is not my candidate either. However, if I must choose between one immoral candidate over another immoral candidate, it would be Newt over Rudy.


316 posted on 02/23/2007 10:54:14 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: Alberta's Child

bttt


317 posted on 02/23/2007 10:55:12 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!...)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Why do you think the Dems have fought him so hard on his court nominees. For that very reason. If we (the voters) could have given him Senators with backbone, we might have those men and women sitting on the benches now. But, we gave him Frist, DeWine, McCain and the rest of the gang.

Where he could effect it, he did. But he's only the president and not the autocrat. :)

318 posted on 02/23/2007 10:55:57 AM PST by carton253 (Not enough space to express how I truly feel.)
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To: babygene
He gets less than a third of those on FR., how can he win against the dems.

Maybe because the views of FR represent maybe 30% of the views of Republicans.

(This is only a SWAG. However, I think it is somewhat close.)

319 posted on 02/23/2007 10:56:12 AM PST by NathanR (Après moi, le deluge.)
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To: kaotic133

Post after post of CRAPOLA.

You are so off the mark it isnt even funny.

If you are trying to make a point, its been completely lost by the absolute idiocy of your posts.

Im just sure Ive heard this kind of rant before *thinking...* Ah yes, the DUmmie FUnnies (and it wasnt a freeper)

Get a grip.


320 posted on 02/23/2007 10:56:31 AM PST by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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