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Australia to ban old-style light bulbs
Associated Press ^
| 02/20/07
| ROHAN SULLIVAN
Posted on 02/20/2007 9:38:04 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9
I've heard that they blame global warming for recent droughts. This is how the global warming paranoia has been building. Everything is now blamed on global warming - floods, droughts, heat waves, blistering cold, thunderstorms, tornados, typhoons, hailstorms, excessive snowfall, no snowfall at all, first time snow ever (Kathmandu, Nepal), dormant volcanoes errupting, dormant volcanos not errupting, earthquakes, landslides, glacial melts, glacial build ups, animal migration, bird migration...
And there is no need to prove anything. Its just global warming.
To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
To: xcamel
I always do a title search. I did one here. I rarely do a subject matter search. If it bothers you that much, you always have the options of either simply not clicking on the story, or seeing a psychiatrist for help with your OCD/anal retentive obsession. If it helps you to post your little scolds, have at it, but I'm not about to alter my behavior to accommodate your neurosis.
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posted on
02/20/2007 10:22:00 AM PST
by
presidio9
(There is something wonderful about a country that produces a brave and humble man like Wesley Autrey)
To: sine_nomine
Actually, that brings up an intersting point. Is there any truth to the urban legend that actually turning on florescent lamps uses more energy than running them for an entire day. In grammer school, I had a teacher that would flick the lights on and off to get our attention, until she discovered that that was not green-friendly behavior.
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posted on
02/20/2007 10:24:16 AM PST
by
presidio9
(There is something wonderful about a country that produces a brave and humble man like Wesley Autrey)
To: ctdonath2
just don't have the right color, brightness, stability or warmth
You have to really look at the color temperature of the bulb you are buying...and they vary greatly.
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posted on
02/20/2007 10:25:37 AM PST
by
P-40
(Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
To: MPJackal
The real issue is my dimmer switch controlled lights and 3-way lightsDimmer switched fluor. may be a problem but 3-way are out there.
I'm using 2 in my house. I think they are 60-100-150 watt equivalent.
The one thing I've noticed is there is a delay in the max brightness of fluor. bulbs. I'm noticing several seconds to a minute or so.
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posted on
02/20/2007 10:29:44 AM PST
by
Vinnie
(You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
To: Condor51
Fluorescent lamps (bulbs) emit considerably more Lumens (light) per watt than incandescent (tungsten) bulbs.Yeah, but it's harsh, ugly light.
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posted on
02/20/2007 10:35:36 AM PST
by
Ignatz
("I think we should tax all foreigners living abroad.")
To: CollegeRepublican
"Dimmable bulbs exist, but they are super expensive."
Yes they are. Do they come in interior spotlight style?
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posted on
02/20/2007 10:35:57 AM PST
by
MPJackal
("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
To: Blueflag
Advances in LEDs and fluorescents can produce matching lumens and similar spectra -- so you get the 'warmth' of incandescents.
Boy I havent seen that
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posted on
02/20/2007 10:41:10 AM PST
by
Chickensoup
(WE are the media....The New Media.)
To: Ignatz
There are several "color tones" available now in CFL bulbs. The warms do well in a home environment
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posted on
02/20/2007 10:48:01 AM PST
by
Starwolf
To: MPJackal
Yes they are available. I recently changed a bunch of 65W R30 bulbs to a CFL equivalent. The issue is that they need to warm up for about 30 secounds to reach full brightness. However, theya re 1/5 the cost to operate, so when my kids leave them on...
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posted on
02/20/2007 10:51:01 AM PST
by
Starwolf
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
All of our outside lights now have the new spiral bulbs. Yep, you can even get them in yellow (bug light):)
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posted on
02/20/2007 10:51:38 AM PST
by
ZIRA
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
The whale fat from all the whales in the world would probably not meet global energy needs for lighting, along with needlessly causing the extinction of an animal.
Maybe they could extract something from human embryos to make up the difference. I was kidding about whale oil.
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posted on
02/20/2007 10:52:02 AM PST
by
Jaysun
(I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
To: Ignatz
***Yeah, but it's harsh, ugly light.***
Yeah it can be with older ones which gave a Blueish hue. But the newer ones are made with 'color options' (temperatures) for different rooms. Like 'Daylight' for a closet.
Light is measured in Kelvin degrees. Daylight (sunlight at noon) is +/- 5200K. Fluorescent can now match that 'color' temp.
Household Incandescent (tungsten) bulb colors are 'cold' at +/-2700K, that's why its 'yellowish' (ever take an indoor picture with "Daylight film" without a Flash?)
The main problem is that we're just used to the yellowish color from tungsten light bulbs in our homes.
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posted on
02/20/2007 10:53:50 AM PST
by
Condor51
(Rudy makes John Kerry look like a 'Right Wing Extremist'.)
To: Starwolf
"theya re 1/5 the cost to operate, so when my kids leave them on..."
I predicted that. When people think they are conserving so much energy by using improved technology, they will stop "practicing" conservation. The overall net gain will be less than expected. I see it in myself now that we have replaced about 75% of our lights. They are still a good idea.
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posted on
02/20/2007 10:58:42 AM PST
by
MPJackal
("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
To: MPJackal
I am sort of fatalistic about this...
I always turn lights off that are not used. When you see the bill every month, it quickly become a habit. Kids never seem to turn off lights. I know I didn't when i was that age.
I also have taken advantage of the incentives offered by the power company in terms of discounted bulbs. Its been a good transition. I have looked at automated and occupancy based lighting but its not quite there in terms of ROI
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posted on
02/20/2007 12:09:34 PM PST
by
Starwolf
To: presidio9
According to one of the Myth-busters' experiments it takes about 30 seconds worth of electricity to switch on a florescent bulb.
To: YoungCurmudgeon
Where would I be without the Myth Busters? I wouldn't know ANYTHING for certain. Intuitively it doesn't make a lot of sense that turning on a florescent used THAT much energy, but I remember hearing that several times when I was a kid.
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posted on
02/20/2007 12:31:44 PM PST
by
presidio9
(There is something wonderful about a country that produces a brave and humble man like Wesley Autrey)
To: presidio9
I understand that the urban legend is just that. I suppose flicking lights on and off will burn them out sooner. CFLs do take a second to light up. I am not an expert in this area.
I looked at power usage for a year at a church. The bill went up dramatically when there were evening services, the main difference being the lights being on.
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posted on
02/20/2007 12:51:13 PM PST
by
sine_nomine
(The United States...shall protect each of them against invasion. Article IV, 4. US Constition)
To: sine_nomine
Motion detector switches help too. I use those outdoors, due to crime and our border security (thanks Bush). And when you combine them with CFL, in cold weather the lights come on slowly to give an intruder a chance to get away..
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posted on
02/20/2007 1:55:51 PM PST
by
Oztrich Boy
(History is not Geology)
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