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To: DocH

There are about 150 issues when it comes to abortion and queers, issues with which someone's not likely to be concerned once the terrorists strike and kill him.

Also, it claims that Hillary supports the War on Terror, which is false, she would surrender. It claims that Hillary supports the Patriot Act, because she voted with the Democratic leadership, while that's absolute nonsense. As president, she would act differently. Rudy, on the other hand, campaigned for Mike DeWine, saying that he could help save the Patriot Act.

It omits many important issues: crime, national security, limited government, low taxation, issues of utmost importance.


330 posted on 02/19/2007 6:50:12 AM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: LtdGovt
Also, it claims that Hillary supports the War on Terror, which is false, she would surrender. It claims that Hillary supports the Patriot Act, because she voted with the Democratic leadership, while that's absolute nonsense. As president, she would act differently. Rudy, on the other hand, campaigned for Mike DeWine, saying that he could help save the Patriot Act.

The chart is not wholly based upon what the candidates are saying right now to get elected. In fact, the chart takes into account and weighs more heavily past performance and statements before a presidential run was announced. If you will notice, the entries for Hillary's views on the War in Iraq and the Patriot Act are colored pink - not red - demonstrating weak or changed support for those things. Each one also has a qualifier to help the astute reader understand that the position is based upon an actual vote. In the case of the Patriot Act, Hillary voted for it two times. In the case of the War in Iraq, she voted for it once. There's a lot of rhetoric coming out of her mouth now, but that doesn't change the fact that she voted for it.

That being said, even if you disagree with the last 3 items in the chart, that doesn't erase the rest of the chart. It would only show that Giuliani is in disagreement with Hillary on just 3 items on the chart, ignoring the rest of the chart entirely.

334 posted on 02/19/2007 7:06:01 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: LtdGovt
There are about 150 issues when it comes to abortion and queers

If you read and, more importantly, COMPREHEND, the MULTITUDE of issues that RINO-rudy is on the WRONG (LIBERAL) side of, you'll understand why we are so adamant about not letting this RINO get far in his run for the WH.

issues with which someone's not likely to be concerned once the terrorists strike and kill him.

To paraphrase Ben Franklin, "Those that would give up liberty for PERCEIVED (with a liberal RINO OR a dem in charge) security, deserve neither". As someone pointed out, MILLIONS of innocent children have been murdered by abortionists fully supported by RINO-rudy and his ilk. How many have been killed by the terrorist enemy we now face?

The point is though, that we CAN, and SHOULD, put our support behind a TRUE CONSERVATIVE who will prosecute the WoT 'til VICTORY is achieved (or, failing that, kill as many of the bastards as we possibly can) AND, and this is a BIG AND, protect and defend our 2nd Amendment RIGHTS and the right of the unborn to LIVE (among other, extremely important issues).

Also, it claims that Hillary supports the War on Terror, which is false,

Read the small print that Spiff includes.

It claims that Hillary supports the Patriot Act,

Again, read the small print.

Rudy, on the other hand, campaigned for Mike DeWine,

WONDERFUL, a flaming RINO supporting another FLAMING RINO.

It omits many important issues: crime, national security, limited government, low taxation, issues of utmost importance.

If you don't consider the LIFE or DEATH issue of Abortion, and the CONSTITUTIONAL issue of our 2nd Amendment RIGHTS, "issues of utmost importance", something is wrong with you.

Spiff has included in his chart, many related issues, but if you break the main categories down, you still have: abortion, embryonic stem cell research, the gay agenda, illegal aliens, the 2nd Amendment & gun control, the WoT, and the Patriot Act. Many of these issues are related to what you say Spiff left our. For instance, you say he left our "national security". I'd say that is included, in Spiff's chart, under the Patriot Act, WoT, illegal aliens AND our 2nd Amendment rights.

Additionally, RINO-rudy's idea of "crime" fighting, like clinton and the dems (and RINOs) "Crime Omnibus Bill of 1996", is grabbing guns from EVERYONE, including law-abiding citizens. Also, gun grabbing on a large, liberal RINO/DEM scale can NOT be accomplished with "limited" government.

As far as taxation goes, I believe someone else posted that RINO-rudy, like his liberal demonRAT brethren, had actually RAISED taxes while mayor (somebody help me with the reference to this).

I don't think Spiff would mind adding these issues to RINO-rudy's list of FAILURES as a "conservative", "moderate", or whatever he is being called by his RINO-rudy-Rooters on any given day.

RINO-rudy is 99% LIBERAL... PERIOD.

348 posted on 02/19/2007 2:42:59 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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