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To: dangus
Rudy Giuliani is pro-choice the way Ronald Reagan was. He has promised to appoint Supreme Court justices like Roberts, Alito and Scalia. A CNN article tries to make it sound like he would also appoint Ginsberg, but he was really defending the selection of Roberts by saying that a President should have nominees passed.

Your statement is absolutely wrong on many points.

First, Reagan was the father of the pro-life movement in the Republican Party and founder of the pro-life plank. Reagan was pro-life. Giuliani is pro-abortion no matter what he's trying to sell you now that he's in campaign mode. At the end of this post I will post for you his actual statement wherein he express support for the most barbaric form of abortion, partial birth abortion. His position on abortion is as extreme as any Democrat's if not worse.

Second, Giuliani's record of appointing judges demonstrates that his "promise" to put up justices like Roberts and Alito is an empty promise or pure, dishonest pandering.

Third, he wasn't just defending the selection of Roberts. He was trying to equate a man like roberts with a commie hag like Ginsburg and he heaped praise upon her in the process.

Now, here's the part about how Giuliani supports partial birth abortion that I promised you. And my promise was not an empty one like Giuliani's:

Rudy Giuliani Supports Partial Birth Abortion

[GEORGE] WILL: Is your support of partial birth abortion firm?
Mayor GIULIANI: All of my positions are firm. I have strong viewpoints. I express them. And I--I do not think that it makes sense to be changing your position....
ABC News February 6, 2000


TUCHMAN: Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports.
GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.
- CNN December 2, 1999


BLITZER: If you were in the Senate and [President Clinton] vetoed, once again, the [ban on the] so-called partial-birth abortion procedure, you would vote against sustaining that against the -- in favor of the veto in other words, you would support the president on that.
GIULIANI: Yes. I said then that I support him, so I have no reason to change my mind about it.
BLITZER: All right. So the bottom line is that on a lot of these very sensitive issues whether on guns, abortion, patients' bill of rights, taxes, you are more in line with the president and by association, with Mrs. Clinton, than you are against them.
- CNN February 6, 2000

MR. RUSSERT: A banning of late-term abortions, so-called partial-birth abortions--you're against that?

MAYOR GIULIANI: I'm against it in New York, because in New York...

MR. RUSSERT: Well, if you were a senator, would you vote with the president or against the president? [Note: President Clinton was in office in 2000]

MAYOR GIULIANI: I would vote to preserve the option for women. I think that choice is a very difficult one. It's a very, very--it's one in which people of conscious have very, very different opinions. I think the better thing for America to do is to leave that choice to the woman, because it affects her probably more than anyone else....

MR. RUSSERT: So you won't change your view on late-term abortion in order to get the Conservative Party endorsement?

MAYOR GIULIANI: It isn't just that. We shouldn't limit this to one issue. I'm generally not going to change my views
- NBC Meet the Press, February 6, 2000


***Note: the version of the Partial Birth Abortion Ban that Giuliani opposed in 2000, that he said he supported Bill Clinton in vetoing the Republican-controlled Congress's legislation, contained the exception for the life of the mother that Rudy is now trying to pretend is a prerequisite for his support of it.


153 posted on 02/18/2007 3:49:46 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
He was trying to equate a man like roberts with a commie hag like Ginsburg and he heaped praise upon her in the process.

Only 3 Republicans voted against the 'commie hag', and they are all gone (Nickles, Helms and Smith of NH).
156 posted on 02/18/2007 3:51:18 PM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Spiff

First off, Reagan, like Giuliani, supported abortion as the "law of the land," when he represented California.

Second, what record of appointing judges are you refering to? Do you honestly expect Giuliani to find pro-life judges to appoint as MAYOR of NEW YORK CITY?

Third, it wasn't Giuliani who brought up Guinsberg at all. The reporter spefically brought up Guinsberg trying to force Giuliani into either endorsing a leftist, or establishing a precedent for Democrats to reject Roberts strictly on ideological grounds. He replied by crediting Guinsberg on very minimal grounds.

However, I am dismayed that he stated opposition to the PBA in the Senate. Your buried your lede.


255 posted on 02/18/2007 5:44:54 PM PST by dangus
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