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To: Spiff

First off, Reagan, like Giuliani, supported abortion as the "law of the land," when he represented California.

Second, what record of appointing judges are you refering to? Do you honestly expect Giuliani to find pro-life judges to appoint as MAYOR of NEW YORK CITY?

Third, it wasn't Giuliani who brought up Guinsberg at all. The reporter spefically brought up Guinsberg trying to force Giuliani into either endorsing a leftist, or establishing a precedent for Democrats to reject Roberts strictly on ideological grounds. He replied by crediting Guinsberg on very minimal grounds.

However, I am dismayed that he stated opposition to the PBA in the Senate. Your buried your lede.


255 posted on 02/18/2007 5:44:54 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
However, I am dismayed that he stated opposition to the PBA in the Senate.

He didn't just state his opposition to the partial birth abortion ban, he told George Will in 2000 that his support of partial birth abortion itself was as "firm" as the rest of his positions. He accepted a "champion of choice" award from NARAL. He celebrated the 25th anniversary of Roe v. Wade with the NARAL ghouls. He has even stated that he'd pay to have his own grandchild aborted. That's not a moderate "pro-choice" position. That's leftist fringe radical pro-abortion stuff right there.

262 posted on 02/18/2007 6:10:47 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: dangus
First off, Reagan, like Giuliani, supported abortion as the "law of the land," when he represented California.

Not a valid comparison. Rudy, unlike RR, was a nomially pro life Catholic who renounced that position and embraced abortion on demand to get elected as Mayor in New York City.

Whereas RR came to believe that his signature was a mistake Rudy has come to believe in unfettered abortion with the additional bonus of having taxpayers pay for it.

263 posted on 02/18/2007 6:15:07 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Vote for Duncan!)
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To: dangus
>>>>First off, Reagan, like Giuliani, supported abortion as the "law of the land," when he represented California.

When Reagan signed the 1967 Therapeutic Abortion Act, he said he did it out of sympathy for the victims of rape, incest and for those women who may be facing health risks or worse, death from childbirth. Reagan did not sign it out of political expediency. There was no flip flop in it. This was one of the first actions taken in the modern abortion battle. An action Reagan regretted within a year and a decision that haunted him for the remainder of his life.

The three exceptions rule is not the same as abortion on demand. Rudy Giuliani has made countless public statements over his entire public career supporting a womans right to choose death, and to kill her unborn child using abortion as a birth control measure..... 95% of the time! Give me a break. Reagan's position on abortion was the complete opposite of what Rudy`s abortion stance is today.

Reagan held a conservative position that life was precious and the unborn should be protected and defended in life by the elected servants of the people. Rudy`s position is far leftwing extremism. On the abortion issue Rudy agrees with the Clinton's, Algore, Barack Obama, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, John Edwards and most of the Democratic Party. On the abortion issue Rudy disagrees with Ronald Reagan, GW Bush and the millions of prolife Americans. Many of them who are FReepers. You don't make Rudy`s candidacy look better by taking cheap pot shots at the Reagan legacy. Rudy remains a liberal. Rudy is NO conservative. Rudy has little in common with Reagan. And Rudy has absolutely nothing in common with Reagan on the abortion issue. PERIOD! Understood?

271 posted on 02/18/2007 6:32:01 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support, promote or vote for liberals.)
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