Posted on 02/17/2007 12:15:00 PM PST by Stajack
He took several mentally unbalanced cheap shots at me upthread, and now I'm beating the pulp out of him with my rapier wit.
It's all in fun. (And trust me, it IS fun. He's an easy mark. :)
Now I have to take back everything I said in 157.
BTW, you're getting awfully specific on what my personal listening habits should be.
No. He's a pompous baffoon and I lost all respect for Ailes when he didn't fire the creep over his indiscretions.
I'd like to see what would happen if your intelligence rose and you became a worthy opponent.
Well I certainly don't listen to O'Reilly, but I figured with your media fixation, you would.....
I have high standards in men, and no offense, but you ain't even close......
cloture - The only procedure by which the Senate can vote to place a time limit on consideration of a bill or other matter, and thereby overcome a filibuster. Under the cloture rule (Rule XXII), the Senate may limit consideration of a pending matter to 30 additional hours, but only by vote of three-fifths of the full Senate, normally 60 votes.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:sU7U-_o0kgUJ:www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/cloture.htm+Cloture&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
There's one problem with your calculation. The denominator should be 100 (the total number of Senators). Invoking cloture requires the approval of three-fiths of the 100 Senators (3/5 * 100 = 60 "yeas" required).
Well that's one problem with the stupidity of the senate rules. cloture should only require two-thirds of those present and voting, not two-thirds of the entire body.
When in doubt, pick "C", they are idiots.
"In my opinion, CSPAN and it family of radio and TV networks, is the absolute definition of fairness.
In reality, the headline is absolutely correct. The cloture vote was to end debate for rules for bringing the senate resolution to the floor. The resolution has not been debated on the senate floor, and that what a 60+ vote would have brought."
"The cloture vote was to end debate.." The resolution has not been debated..."
Which is it? Do you not understand that before a cloiture vote there is debate, (and after if the debate is not shut off for that matter)? Do you think it the debate somewhere other than on the floor of the Senate?
"The cloture was not for the House resolution, it was for debate on the rules to begin debate."
No. Cloture is a vote to end debate on a bill, resolution, or other vote and to get on with the voting. The rules were already decided. This is not a vote on what the rules will be, it is a vote to end debate on the issue at hand. It always has been and always will be.
You are wrong. You are welcome to research it yourself. The cloture vote was to end debate and negotiations on which non-binding Senate resolution was going to be debated.
This was not like the controversies last summer regarding judicial appointments. Nominees were passed through committee and then debated on the floor. When debate was to end a cloture vote was held. A up/down vote was taken and that was it. Since senate resolutions do not originate in committee, there is a slight change in procedure.
"You are wrong. You are welcome to research it yourself. The cloture vote was to end debate and negotiations on which non-binding Senate resolution was going to be debated."
First you say cloture is not to end debate, then I come back and say yes it is, then you tell me I am wrong and follow it with cloture is to end debate.
Regarding the rules those were decided when the Senate first came back to chambers at the first of this year. The debate has been and is about the issue of resolutions. Yes negotiations are involved, but this involved debate on all resolutions regarding our troops. The vote to end debate was not passed, therefore all debate is continuing including the resolution the Dems want.
I have studied this for several years. I have already looked it up. It has nothing to do with rules. The rules have already been determined.
Nope, you are still wrong. Feel free to research it closer.
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