Archaeologists To Return To Allendale Site In May (Topper - 50,000 YO)

Island Packet ^ | 2-17-2007 | Peter Frost

[blam]

More Suprises coming?

[blam]

GGG Ping.

[bpjam]

Uh oh, this could really screw up the whole native american sovereignty thing if they weren't the first ones here.... Maybe we are going to have to turn over South Carolina to Guatemala or Peru (I think North Carolina has already gone to Mexico).

[Clioman]

So, Kennewick Man was just a johnny-come-lately? Or maybe a tourist?

[Spktyr]

Quite probably. The last ice age would have wiped out much evidence (if there was any) of any hypothetical predecessor civilizations.

[RJS1950]

I doubt it. These pre-Clovis sites have been of the solutrean type of objects that originate from European areas. There has already been some pretty solid genetic evidence that links eastern tribes to genetic markers found only in Europeans. So yes, it may foul the treasured myths that indians were the first on this continent; it may show that ice-age and pre-ice-age Europeans got here first. So 1492 may have been the beginning of the European "Reconquista" of the North American continent.

[Artemis Webb]

"Uh oh, this could really screw up the whole native american sovereignty thing if they weren't the first ones here.... Maybe we are going to have to turn over South Carolina to Guatemala or Peru (I think North Carolina has already gone to Mexico)."

Well how about Arkansas? I live about 70 miles north of the Arkansas border. Maybe we can turn it over to a bunch of inbreeding rednecks who...oh...
...never mind.

[jim35]

When Arkansas rednecks inbreed, they send the worst, most brain-damaged progeny 70 miles north of the border.

[68skylark]

The last ice age would have wiped out much evidence (if there was any) of any hypothetical predecessor civilizations.

Well, only in what is now Canada and the northern US. The evidence should still be present in the south, right?

[Spktyr]

Theoretically, but if those areas weren't settled at the time the glaciers came marching down from the north, the oldest of the settlements we'd find (assuming the mud hasn't swallowed them, New-Madrid-like quakes haven't levelled them, or the jungles haven't destroyed/vanished them) would date from (surprise) just after the ice age reached its peak.

[Coyoteman]

There has already been some pretty solid genetic evidence that links eastern tribes to genetic markers found only in Europeans.

It looks like a single group (haplogroup X) in Eurasia split, with one part going west and into Europe, with the other going east, across the Bering land bridge and into the US in the area of the Great Lakes.

The following website has some of the details:

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/

[blam]

"There has already been some pretty solid genetic evidence that links eastern tribes to genetic markers found only in Europeans."

Click here, go to the bottom and click on 'Genetic Markers', look on the right and click on haplogroup X. Read it.

[bpjam]

Hey now!! If not for Arkansas, who would the Kansans and Missourians look down on? (Thank God for Lousiana or Arkies would be the bottom of cultural food change)

I've spent lots of time working in Arkansas and I have appreciation for those areas which are very nice so realize this is all tongue-in-cheek. Please no flames for Arkie bashing. I'd still rather live in Arkansas than New York City or San Francisco (or Los Angeles again)

[SunkenCiv]

Archaeologist's Find Could Shake Up Science (Topper Site)
SP Times | 1-7-2007 | Heather Urquides
Posted on 01/08/2007 2:14:54 PM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1764245/posts

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Blam. Topper keyword.

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[blam]

[SunkenCiv]

Study Says Americas Settled 15,000 Years Ago
Source: National Geographic
Published: 8-31-2001 Author: Not stated
Posted on 09/03/2001 06:59:54 PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b938cda48c8.htm

[concentric circles]

[Spktyr]

There have been some "rethinks" about that too, as of late. Some thoughts have the glaciation coming down as far as North Central Texas.

That said, much of the rest of North America would have been permafrost or uninhabitable even with the depicted amount of glaciation. Any artifacts would have been destroyed.

[Dustbunny]

Neat !!!