Posted on 02/17/2007 9:15:45 AM PST by American in Israel
There is a real problem being stirred up by the Arabs over the Temple Mount, and I for one think they are up to something no good. Perhaps I am just being paranoid, but the amount of smoke they are generating over this access ramp is far too much for the weight it will carry on its own.
A Little background would help what I am trying to say.
Remember back when the Rabbis of Jerusalem announced that they believed that the Arc of the Covenant was buried in the Temple Mount? Within three months we had Arafat tearing out the whole south western corner of the temple mount with a bulldozer and rock crusher. He claimed that he was just expanding the Mosque.
However, the "great expansion" project seems never to have been completed. A huge earthen ramp was dug, and then paved over with flag stones. But no great Mosque expansion seems to ever have been put in place. I chalked it up to the standard Muslim smoke and mirrors, as Arafat went on a treasure destruction hunt.
But during his little engineering foray he succeeded in pushing out the retaining walls that make up the temple mount. This was no easy achievement, as the stones are huge, and the walls are double thick as they are made hollow with a passage way between the walls. In order to push the outer walls out of place, he had to completely displace the inner walls so far as to push the outer ones out too. The damage he did digging behind the retaining wall with a bulldozer was not just limited to the walls. He caused structural damage to the Al Asque Mosque at the same time. It was reported in the newspapers that the dome of the mosque had cracked.
The Israeli’s closed the area right below the mosque at that time to tourist traffic for fear the mosque could collapse on the tourists.
Also two years ago there was an earthquake that cracked the golden dome mosque, the one made from an ancient Byzantine church. This mosque is not considered “holy”, it is the smaller silver domed mosque in the south west corner that is the religious shrine. The golden dome is just a political statement that Islam dominates over Christianity and Judaism. Written in the inside of the dome in Arabic is a statement that Allah is god, Mohammad is his messenger and that god had no son.
But the worship takes place not in there, but where Arafat was digging, in the silver domed Al Asque.
This is what is fishy: In the three years since the damage has been done to both mosques, the Arabs have built scaffolding around the gold domed mosque and spent many months repairing it. But they have NOT repaired the silver mosque! What they have done, for the last few years is claim that the Jews are secretly digging in the night to damage the mosque.
We know that Arafat did not replace the ancient drainage system after he dug up that area of the temple mount. And in fact, after his digging the water began to run during rains from under the walls of the temple mount and it was running brown as soil was being undermined by the rain. We also know that a retaining wall on the far side of the mosque from Arafat’s dig collapsed outward two years after he dug his huge hole. If that was caused by Arafat’s dig, he had to have displaced the entire mosque foundation.
Now suddenly, in the heavy rains of this season, the Arabs are claiming that the Jews are attacking the Al Asque Mosque because they are digging some holes to bedrock 75 yards away from the Mosque, and not even in the temple mount, but in the area outside the temple mount. And they are not just doing what has been the standard “secret Jewish plot stuff” but rioting in the city and calling for war. There are 2000 riot police camped in the old city right now and they have had to be there all week!
What if the Arabs are generating an excuse to start another all out war? What if they decided to let, or even help the mosque collapse after setting a track record of complaints to try to fix the blame on the Jews?
I smell something rotten in all this strong Arabic propaganda against the archeological dig being done by Israel. And I for one would not want to be a “worshiper” on the temple mount in the coming months. It would be just like the Muslims, to pull the mosque down on their congregation during prayers, for the glory of the martyrdom in the name of Jihad.
Hang on to your hats folks, I think things are about to get interesting.
Not with the current government. It is the most anti-religious government that Israel has ever had, and that says a LOT.
Please check out my post #100
If you read the article let me know your take on it. I pray for the peace of Jerusalem. I hope you will be safe there.
Puhleeeeze! It killed two of Aaron's sons (you know, Aaron the first High Priest, brother of Moses) and several others who touched it over the centuries. No one is immune.
One thing is for sure. That Mosque will come down. Either by War, Occupation of the temple mount, or by the hand of God. But it will come down.
I seriously considered that bunch of evidence . . . exceedingly inconclusive, imho. IIRC, there are 3 churches there all claiming that a different ark is the real one. And the things purported to be the ark in occasional processions are too small.
I just don't think it's there.
Highly implausible, to me.
I think it has to be something more vital to their interests than a gold box they don't believe in.
will check it out. thx.
CERTAINLY. Got you included. thx.
I remember reading about the chariot wheels. It all depends on what type of chariots were being used. Wyatt thought he found one with bronze spokes (which is why it would be still around), but a lot of the chariots of the time had wooden spokes. So there has been no ruling either way.
I believe that the following link is well worth your prayerful consideration.
I realize it will POSSIBLY jangle some of the TULIP folks who have some pretty fierce biases agasinst such Biblcal truths but I encourage them to fairly consider such with their Bibles open and possibly their minds as well.
LUB,
http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=1&type=12
END TIMES/DREAMS/VISIONS/PROPHECY PING LIST PING
Please let me know if you want on or off the list.
Please pray I get my keyboard software problem solved. sigh.
I also saw a show about the chariot wheels on "A Rood Awakening". One of the wheels found in the Red Sea was gold and only had 4 spokes, which only the Pharoah could have. Rood also believes that King Tut was the young son of this Pharoah and was killed as the "firstborn" in the Passover. He has an interesting show but he doesn't back it up with much info.
Last week his show was about Mt. Sinai - very interesting video filmed by a couple claiming discovery. Strange thing is all the info given was also claimed as having been discovered by Wyatt. I don't know who the actual discoverer was but I believe it is the actual site. The top of the mountain was black, as if burned (no other mountains in the area were like that), there were quail running around, fig trees, olive trees and a huge, ancient cypress that does not grow in that area - burning bush?
Also an enormous, 5-6 story rock that has a split down the middle large enough for a person to pass through that has been worn by a flow of water (in the desert).
Sounds like proof to me.
Agreed Ping-Pong, Redgolum . . . Thx.
Alex et al,
this link:
http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=1&type=12
appears to be the first long article of many that we were referred to.
I'm probably half way through it.
I don't purport to agree with everything. But it's a very interesting perspective and I think many of his Biblical interpretations have merit.
I do believe that Christ also came to save WHOSHOEVER WILL, including gentiles--on that score, he SEEMS at the point I'm at, to be in error.
Nevertheless, the whole line of thinking--it's an interesting line of reasoning and interprtation . . .
Thanks, Quix. It may be a day or more before I can get to it, but I'll be sure to check it out.
Thanks for the ping!
"The Ark is in Ethiopia."
I'm not sold on that theory. I've read the book(s) on the Ark being there, and there's too much in the story that's too vague, and unless we actually SEE the Ark, it's all conjecture.
A lot of the Ark mythology is (sadly) tightly tied up in the Rosicrucian/Templar/DaVinci code nonsense, and if you read enough of it, you see where they all cut and paste and borrow and steal from each other, and they all use the same faulty logic to "prove" their theories, with little if no evidence.
Much like when I see Von Däniken used as a credible source on Discovery/National Geographic woo woo "documentaries", I cringe when I read of lot of Ark materials. Some of it's real, some of it's fanasy from obsession, and a lot of it is simply nonsense.
This Wyatt's work is interesting on a casual level, but it seems like it's all focused towards selling a book - if he had indeed found a monumental discovery, as earth-shaking and huge as finding the Ark and other priceless artifacts in a tomb under Golgotha, it would be the stuff of history, and shared throught the globe, not in a book few if any have read. I'm sorry to be that critical, but while the snippets on the web are interesting, if for any reason because I want to visit those sites someday, but it all ends with the usual "others tried to verify his findings but were unable to", and the failure credited to some nefarious government/religious plot to squash the information.
I tend to think if the Ark was found, word would spread fast. Finding an object as important as the Ark, which would end anyone's doubt to the events surrounding it in a final, ultimate way...I just tend to think the news would be impossible to squash. Even if the Muslims found it, they would be quick to use it to taunt the Jews and Christians who would be in anguish at it's being held by such animals.
I would be overjoyed for it to be found. But I'm also worried that I will be alive when it is revealed, as I think that would be part of bigger events that every man woman and child should be terrified to live through. It's important to have faith, but you have to be wary of those using your faith to sell you books and movies, just like the global warming idiots are using junk science to sell their books and movies. I read a lot of the conspiracy theory type stuff, as it's pure entertainment (and you can find out some usefull things along the way, when they manage to reproduce historical data correctfully and truthfully), especially the Priory of Sion/Rennes-les-Chateau conspiracy theories, which Dan Brown ransacked for the DaVinci Code. But like anything else, you have to keep a skeptical eye out, and not let them lead you down the merry path to pure fanatasy, which is where they generally tend to end up with their creative "logic" and specious arguments.
Perhaps the Arabs have found something else on in the foundations...more likely they're using Arafat's ridiculous digging as a way to justify an attack on the "Joos" - thing are getting dicey for the terrorists in Iraq, and they may want something to divert attention away from their losses...or it's payback for Syria. I don't know, but I would'nt be surprised if that's what it was.
Me, I have faith that God will reveal what we need to see in his own time and his own reasons, and some mysteries will remain that: mysteries.
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