Some in party believe he (Giuliani) can win in California

San Diego Union Tribune ^ | Feb. 11, 2007 | John Marelius

[FairOpinion]

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, still basking in his can-do post-Sept. 11 image, got a rousing welcome yesterday from Republican activists searching for a presidential candidate who can win in California.

No Republican presidential candidate has carried California since the elder George Bush did in 1988, and no one has even run a competitive race in the increasingly Democratic-leaning state since then.

Republicans are hopeful they have prospects in the large 2008 field who can reverse the trend by combining liberal and conservative stands that has proven so successful for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

“The popularity of the governor shows that you can take the positions that he holds and win in California,” said Duf Sundheim, outgoing Republican state chairman. “I think Giuliani has the same opportunity.”

As for Giuliani, backers say his record on reducing crime and taxes in New York should give conservatives plenty to like. He was introduced to the convention yesterday by businessman Bill Simon, the 2002 Republican nominee for California governor who once worked under Giuliani in the U.S. Attorney's Office in New York.

Simon said that as mayor, Giuliani cut taxes 23 times and reduced the city's murder rate by 67 percent. “That is a record that as a conservative Republican, I can heartily endorse,” he said.

[68 grunt]

You sure have that part right.

[Carry_Okie]

This is a bogus, misleading comparison, ignores key issues of major differences.

A classic FO "major difference," like the "major difference" between socialized medicine from Arnold versus socialized medicine from Angelides.

They must pay you well FO, because no sane person would withstand such a drubbing for mere idealogy, that is, unless they were homosexual. In which case, they're not sane at all.

Which is it FO? At this point your answer probably doesn't matter because nobody would believe you anyway.

[Carry_Okie]

That sure is making the rounds.

It's effective. I wish the cells had reference links so that we could kill this stupidity.

We're not doing so bad. So far, McLame is in flames and Romney is taking on water. Once more people learn Rudy's history, he'll soon follow.

[Fishrrman]

Sun wrote:
Remember when everyone thought George Allen was a done deal?

I think it's safe to say that - politically speaking - George Allen IS a "done deal".

- John

[Beagle8U]

"In that case I would have to say, they better be careful who is sending them those "mailers". It is conceivable that Dims would be using that info. Would they rather vote for a Hillary, or one of her Dim clones?"

The Mailers will come from the NRA, GOA, their local gun club, The hunting/shooting magazines, word of mouth, etc.
The gun mfg.'s will likely send information to every gun shop in the nation. To think that Rudy's record on guns wont get out to gun owners, or that they will overlook it is naive.

No they don't want Hildabeast either. The choice you are promoting and offering to them gives them nobody to vote for in the POTUS race unless they vote third party.
08 may be the year that the NRA and GOA are forced to throw their support to the Libertarian party candidate.

Slice it any way you want, you are selling a product they will not buy. You can look forward to an equal reaction from Right to Life and various other groups that that have in past elections been solidly in the Republican camp. "

[dirtboy]

AmeriBrit: I have no idea how to post a 22 page pdf file

Nopardons: Yes, I have been slogging through the 22 page PDF file, but don't ask me to link to it, I don;'t know how to.

That's amazing. Y'all are good enough to find it, but can't even cut and paste the link - it can be text - into FR. And it just so happens that BOTH of you are unable to figure out that easy task.

OK, then paste some of the text into FR.

[Arizona Carolyn]

I agree with you and the WOT and SCOTUS is my #1 and #2 issues -- actually probably SCOTUS is and should be #1 followed closely by WOT. I do want to know more about what Rudy would do with the immigration mess.

[dirtboy]

I have been slogging through the 22 page PDF file, but don't ask me to link to it, I don;'t know how to.

Calcowgirl, AmeriBrit made the same nonsensical claim - that they don't know how to provide a link to it.

But Ameribrit had NO PROBLEM subsequently making a live HTML link to an FR thread.

This stinks to high heaven. Two posters making unsubstantiated allegations, referencing a PDF that took an hour to find in Google, yet they both say they can't figure out how to post a simple link to it. Or even just where they found it.

[Oct1967]

I would have to say there is less than a 50/50 chance he would carry CA.....He is more likey to carry ME, NH, CT, and NJ

[68 grunt]

... We're not doing so bad. ...

Sure, Karaoke, you and Hitlery are doing well at keeping republicans divided.

[calcowgirl]

Try this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1783242/posts?page=255#255

[The South Texan]

Don't tell the Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo supporters that.

[dirtboy]

That's IT? That is the damning indictment of Duncan Hunter? What a pantload.

[Carry_Okie]

Sure, Karaoke, you and Hitlery are doing well at keeping republicans divided.

Ah, the great uniter speaks. Thank you so much for implementing every leftist dream in California. You sure know how to unify with Democrats.

[dirtboy]

ping to post #255

[dirtboy]

So THIS was the damning indictment of Duncan Hunter? Thanks for the sanity check, calcowgirl.

No wonder nopadons and ameribrit supposedly couldn't figure out how to post a link to a PDF. Y'all should be utterly ashamed of yourself for insinuating criminal wrongdoing by Hunter by harping on this PDF that CLEARS Hunter.

[Carry_Okie]

At this point, Whackjob should be sued for libel. Similar treatment should be visited upon anybody who repeats the refuted allegations.

[dirtboy]

At this point, Whackjob should be sued for libel.

And what does that say about the FR posters who were parroting this PDF as proof of Hunter's alleged corruption?

[Carry_Okie]

Maybe we should start keeping a list of those who do repeat false allegations after having their falsity proven to them.

It would be a handy dandy way to focus potential libel action.

[calcowgirl]

Pretty much!