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New York, New York Rudy vs. Hillary in 2008? [NOONAN]
The Wallstreet Journal ^ | Friday, February 9, 2007 12:01 a.m. EST | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 02/11/2007 4:34:50 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner

According to polls, Hillary Clinton holds an early and significant lead among Democratic voters (43%, compared with 22% for Barack Obama in a Fox News poll 10 days ago). She is of course the killer fund-raiser of the race, with one of her contributors crowing this week that she'll raise more money than all the other candidates combined. So let's call her the likely Democratic nominee, even though Mr. Obama hasn't even announced yet. On the Republican side it's Giuliani time, with Fox News putting him at 34% among GOP voters and John McCain coming in second with 22%. He hasn't announced yet either, but this week he filed all the papers. So at the moment, and with keen awareness that not a vote has been cast, it is possible to say the state of New York is poised to become the home of both major-party presidential candidates.

This is not unprecedented, but it is unusual. It happened in 1904, when New York was the home of the hero of Oyster Bay, President Theodore Roosevelt, and reluctant Democratic nominee Alton Parker, a judge on New York's Court of Appeals, who carried only the solid South. It happened again in New York in 1944, when Teddy's cousin Franklin sought a fourth term against the bland and mustachioed Thomas Dewey, the New York district attorney unforgettably labeled by Teddy's daughter, the chilly and amusing Alice Roosevelt Longworth, "the little man on the wedding cake." In 1920 both the Democratic and Republican nominees were from Ohio; Sen. Warren Harding, who seemed boring but proved sprightly, landslided Democrat James Cox, a dreamy Wilsonian who thought America wished to hear more about the League of Nations. (Illinois was the first state to enjoy dual nominees when Republican Abraham Lincoln beat Stephen Douglas,

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KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; gop; guiliani; hillary; noonan; republicans; rinos; sandpaperelection
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Unfortunatly, if Hillary! looks like she is going to get the democratic nomination, you can gurantee that Rudy! will get the Republican nomination


41 posted on 02/12/2007 9:44:55 PM PST by Thunder90
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"Unfortunatly, if Hillary! looks like she is going to get the democratic nomination, you can gurantee that Rudy! will get the Republican nomination"

I don't get how they are connected. I assume the Republican primary voters will vote for the candidate they want regardless of the Democratic nomination.

So why do you think so?


42 posted on 02/13/2007 11:26:39 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Here's an experiment for God's existence: Ask Him to contact you.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Rudy is seen as someone who can cream Hillary! in the general election.


43 posted on 02/13/2007 2:29:00 PM PST by Thunder90
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"Rudy is seen as someone who can cream Hillary! in the general election."

Seen by who? He must convince the majority of Republican primary voters. How do you respond to these facts?

1. The majority of Republican primary voters are anti-abortion.
2. Rudy must convince them to vote for him rather than an anti-abortion candidate (Mitt Romney, for example.)

How will Rudy do this? I don't think it is likely.


44 posted on 02/14/2007 9:05:04 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Here's an experiment for God's existence: Ask Him to contact you.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Not to mention that Rudy won't get an endorsement from the NRA, which is an athema to any Republican primary candidate.


45 posted on 02/14/2007 2:09:17 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Nice background on two candidates from the same state

Excuse me?

Rudy and I are both from New York, although I am now blessed to live in New Hampshire.

Hillary Clinton, wherever she happens to live, has never been from New York, is not from New York now, and will never BE from New York, however long she pretends.

46 posted on 02/14/2007 2:12:37 PM PST by Jim Noble
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I said "Nice background on two candidates from the same state"

You said: "Excuse me?

Rudy and I are both from New York, although I am now blessed to live in New Hampshire.

Hillary Clinton, wherever she happens to live, has never been from New York, is not from New York now, and will never BE from New York, however long she pretends."

LOL! I wasn't refering to Hillary and Rudy, but all the other dual candidates from the same state throughout our history. Peggy covers them all, back to Lincoln.


47 posted on 02/14/2007 5:36:57 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Here's an experiment for God's existence: Ask Him to contact you.)
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