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US navy warned of 'suicide drones' ~ Iran warns us....
news.com.au - Australia ^ | February 11, 2007 07:31pm | From correspondents in Tehran

Posted on 02/11/2007 12:25:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

IRAN has built "suicide" drones capable of attacking US naval ships and forcing them to leave Gulf waters, said a Revolutionary Guards commander quoted by the semi-official news agency Mehr.

"We have built birds without passengers (drones) that can carry out suicide operations on the US Navy, at any depth if necessary, to make them leave the region in disgrace," said Ali Shoushtari, deputy commander of the Guards' land forces.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: china; india; iran; israel; russia; threat; usnavy
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To: Polybius

Aprox 5000 sailors killed, plus 5000 wounded due to Kamikazis. Yet America fought on despite it to utterly defeat Japan.

Can we imagine if, God forbid, Iran were to luck out and take out one of our CVNs, what we would hear from the gutless left and MSM? With 5,000 dead and 5,000 wounded Naval losses would we fight on to defeat Iran? With the cut and run crowd we have now, I doubt it.


81 posted on 02/11/2007 3:37:09 PM PST by sasportas
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To: KantianBurke

Good response! I can't stand some of the blinder fools around who mistake intelligent caution/plan for the worst approaches as being somehow 'pro-enemy'. I'm a firm believer in assuming your enemy's capacities may be greater than you expect.


82 posted on 02/11/2007 3:44:14 PM PST by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: Androcles

Yes I don't get it either.


83 posted on 02/11/2007 3:46:01 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: kinoxi
Do you honestly think that they have the advantage?

Define "advantage." I think the Iranians have the power to damage or destroy a US aircraft carrier battle group operating in the Persian Gulf. I also think that in any armed conflict, US casualties would be lower than Iranian casualties. But that's not really the point -- the destruction of a carrier battle group (regardless of the cost to Iran) would be a huge psychological defeat for the US. What I think is more likely is that the Iranians could force carrier battle groups to operate so far out in the Arabian Sea, that their ability to operate effectively over Iran would be generally negated.

84 posted on 02/11/2007 3:46:02 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

I don't share you're pessimism on this subject.


85 posted on 02/11/2007 3:48:47 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Alter Kaker
Yes if they have enough of them in coordinated attacks it could be a big problem.

The to go further they might throw up a bunch of piloted GA small aircraft in the air just to put that many more targets in the sky, all to open up gaps for the silk worms to get thru.
86 posted on 02/11/2007 3:53:28 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Ahh! I see.


87 posted on 02/11/2007 3:55:43 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And there is a very good chance that Putin will step in against if this this one goes down IMO.


88 posted on 02/11/2007 3:59:42 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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against = against us


89 posted on 02/11/2007 4:00:16 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

90 posted on 02/11/2007 4:10:21 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Didn't work out so well for the japs did it.
91 posted on 02/11/2007 4:14:37 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: KantianBurke
I realize they are not specifically designed for this mission but it seems these boats would be right up the A-10s alley.
92 posted on 02/11/2007 4:26:55 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/systems/mk-15.htm


93 posted on 02/11/2007 4:27:59 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (So many geeks so few circuses.)
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To: KantianBurke
What were the ROE's? You know we let the Indians beat the US Air force some years ago.
94 posted on 02/11/2007 4:30:01 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (So many geeks so few circuses.)
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To: MNJohnnie
We have had them for years, we call ours "US Senators"
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No, no, those are 'senile drones'.
95 posted on 02/11/2007 4:36:57 PM PST by Cheburashka ( World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Polybius
However, you fail to point out that after the introduction of prox fuses the success rate of suicide bombers went down dramatically.

WWII suicide bombing was ineffective mostly due to the numbers of ships involved (as you point out) but as a true weapon it was only a distraction.

I do agree with you though that the confined space of the Gulf is a serious problem. The carriers need to stay clear of that tight area which would also keep them away from limited range anti-ship weapons. I am not minimizing the Iranian threat but at some point we will get pissed enough to take out everything in Iran. Dem traitors aside.

96 posted on 02/11/2007 4:37:46 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (So many geeks so few circuses.)
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To: PISANO

IRAN has built "suicide" drones capable of attacking US naval ships

Nuke 'em!


97 posted on 02/11/2007 4:39:28 PM PST by brwnsuga
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To: BIGLOOK

In 1959, we had a big muckety-muck from the Japanese railroad as a guest in our home. I'd been to Japan 2 years earlier on a trip around the world with my grandparents and picked up some Japanese words and phrases.

The guy was impressed with that, and informed me that during WWII, he had been trained and volunteered to be a Kamakazi pilot. The day before he was scheduled to fly and attack American ships, the emperor announced the end of the war.

The day prior to that his best friend in training had lopped off his pinky finger on his left hand and given it to him to remember him by and flown off on his mission. He told me that all of the pilots he trained with were committed to dying for the emperor, that it was the accepted thing to do.


98 posted on 02/11/2007 4:42:32 PM PST by stumpy
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To: Eagles6
If nobody 'martyrs' themselves, it's not a suicide drone...

Where ever it is launched from there will be the people who fired it, and maybe even guiding it and tracking it. Those people will be the martyrs once the retalitory strike arrives.

99 posted on 02/11/2007 4:49:44 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: Alter Kaker
People who underestimate Iran's littoral capabilities are making a mistake. We in Israel learned this lesson the hard way. Iran has excellent anti-ship missilery.

Agreed. You don't want to underestimate their technology or the will of their military to fight back if they feel they are defending their country from attack.

Hopefully our President with his advisors, and our military, are all working on a plan.

If God-forbid, we do go after Iran militarily, I don't think Iran will be the relative cakewalk that Iraq was.

100 posted on 02/11/2007 4:55:33 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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