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US navy warned of 'suicide drones' ~ Iran warns us....
news.com.au - Australia ^ | February 11, 2007 07:31pm | From correspondents in Tehran

Posted on 02/11/2007 12:25:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: stumpy
Don't doubt it for a moment. Kamikazes caused a lot of damage and sunk a few ships in their last ditch effort to postpone the inevitable. Truman was wise.


War in the Pacific theater came to a screeching halt. This option has always been on the table. The crazies in Iran may force Armageddon........one that does not favor them.
101 posted on 02/11/2007 4:57:02 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

"If God-forbid, we do go after Iran militarily, I don't think Iran will be the relative cakewalk that Iraq was."

Iran can be easily taken. The problem is that after taking, then what? Do what we did in Iraq and change the Rules of Engagement. Expedite a new government so our military becomes guests and under the authority of the new government.

Oh, we can take Iran. But we should be clear about the problems and allowing all necessary Rules in order to pacify the wackos.


102 posted on 02/11/2007 4:59:22 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

True.


103 posted on 02/11/2007 5:21:43 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Eagles6

>> If nobody 'martyrs' themselves, it's not a suicide drone. Maybe they'll have to put this one on hold while they figure that out.

Agreed. I think the "Suicide Drone" idea bypassed the editor's desk.


104 posted on 02/11/2007 5:27:31 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: Prost1
Iran can be easily taken.

ROFL. Not

We're not invading Iran.

Have you ever, say, looked at a map of Iran? Or its population?

105 posted on 02/11/2007 5:36:18 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Nuc1

"Didn't work out so well for the japs did it"

Actually it did, part of the reason that the Nuclear bomb prevailed over operation Olympic.


106 posted on 02/11/2007 5:38:17 PM PST by Dave Elias
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To: Strategerist

"Iran can be easily taken."

You are too literal. There is a difference between "taken" and "occupied". We can "take" Iran as in "taking on an opponenent". We do not need to occupy Iran. We could, but we do not need too. We can dismember Iran. We can do lots of things to Iran. We can turn their lights out...


107 posted on 02/11/2007 5:40:14 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: Prost1
No, you clearly were discussing a US occupation: "Expedite a new government so our military becomes guests and under the authority of the new government."
108 posted on 02/11/2007 5:42:55 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Prost1

And we literally do not have the troop strength to occupy Iran, if we wanted to.


109 posted on 02/11/2007 5:43:46 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

What I was attempting to say, and apparently not to clearly, is that our military is quite capable of dealing with Iran. It is the Rules that bind them. We could put out tank divisions back in Iraq and march to Tehran or Damascus.

It is the Rules that prevent the successful completion of the the mission. Our Air and Land Power is still formidable and can create great changes. In the disarray that follows, do we take governing control away as we did in Iraq?

If we do not engage on land in Iran, do we just drop bombs and lob missles? We need people there, so we need to destroy the Regime and then inspect their nuclear facilities. We need to gather their scientists into one area and interrogate them. The same for the military and remaining political hierarchy.

These are things that need to be done.


110 posted on 02/11/2007 5:56:03 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: Gondring

Funded by a Muslim.


111 posted on 02/11/2007 6:00:46 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Thanks for that link,...sounds like a slow flying drone wouldn't stand a chance....gatling guns are wicked....


112 posted on 02/11/2007 6:12:24 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Funded by a Muslim.

Surrend is?!?

113 posted on 02/11/2007 6:42:04 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: 1rudeboy

That was a great weapon,but if im not mistaken,it was cancelled a few years ago.


114 posted on 02/11/2007 7:52:44 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"to make them leave the region in disgrace,"

These muslo-maniacs just crack me up with all their empty threats.

Sure, they set off a bomb here, set off a bomb there...they don't intimidate the United States military one ioda.

It just pisses off our service members that are already lookin for a lil payback.
115 posted on 02/11/2007 7:57:55 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Do we have enough SM-2 and AMRAAMs?


116 posted on 02/11/2007 11:29:10 PM PST by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: Polybius
Imagine the media outrage if we lose just one ship.
117 posted on 02/11/2007 11:32:32 PM PST by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: Alter Kaker

I couldn't disagree more with your assessment. The Navy does indeed have an institutional bias toward large ships, which is changing as the nature of warfare changes. Before WWII, battleships ruled. Since then until very recently, much of the focus has been power projection with carrier battle groups, which is a great way to win a cold war. Today, much more emphasis is being put on littoral and assymmetrical warfare.

However, intraservice rivalries within the Navy, the skimmers vs. bubbleheads vs. airdales budget battles, etc. have ensured that the Navy has a wide variety of surface, subsurface and airborne platforms from which to choose and is building more all the time.

The problem of keeping the oil flowing out of the middle east has been wargamed repeatedly since oil was discovered there. The Iranian "navy" has tried to close the Straits before and been unsuccessful. To say that they have any sort of advantage over the US Navy is simply laughable.


118 posted on 02/12/2007 6:30:03 AM PST by LadyNavyVet
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To: Eagles6
I guess the drone is giving up it's life?

It's like like the leftist idea that, "an suv went out of control and hit 6 people"?
119 posted on 02/12/2007 6:38:15 AM PST by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: guitar4jesus

It's great when it's not broken and leaking hydraulic fluid.

Downtime is something like 50% of operational time.


120 posted on 02/12/2007 8:17:39 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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