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Game Console wars: Pressure on Sony PS3 Mounts (which would you pick?)
I4U.com ^ | Posted on Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:00:00 CST | None given

Posted on 02/10/2007 3:27:46 PM PST by Caipirabob

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To: Gunslingr3
I have no doubt the consoles will evolve to take advantage of the DC/QC architecture. But none of the existing platforms can begin to handle these games yet. The Germans have developed some new graphics engine that allows photo-quality imaging, and the Americans have the Havoc physics engine down pat, so gaming is about to get hyper-real.

And look at what it will do the puffed-up mannequins in Hollywood. CGI can replace them all, and let the creative talent put their ideas into motion, rather than have them interpreted through a bunch of vanity filters until they're virtually unrecognizable.

41 posted on 02/10/2007 5:49:52 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Xth Legion
Can't wait for Major League Baseball and NHL Hockey.

My 9 year old son is a Star Wars game fan and he swears that they will have to make a Star Wars Laser sword fighting game for Wii.

42 posted on 02/10/2007 5:54:24 PM PST by mykdsmom (Some people are like Slinkies..useless, yet still make you smile as you push them down the stairs)
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To: IronJack
But none of the existing platforms can begin to handle these games yet.

Neither can existing PCs, so you're not even making an apples to apples comparison. Then start looking at the price to get that performance and it really goes downhill for the PC as a gaming platform.

And look at what it will do the puffed-up mannequins in Hollywood.

Uncanny Valley.

43 posted on 02/10/2007 5:59:07 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
I've got a buddy who just built a dual-core. His two-year-old Alienware was obsolete.

It will cost the console-makers a bundle to incorporate the multi-core processors too. It's not like they're going to make the CPUs cheaper just because they're going into a plastic box instead of a real computer.

44 posted on 02/10/2007 6:05:33 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Bogey78O

Blu Ray players play DVDs? Hmm...I didn't know that. Interesting.


45 posted on 02/10/2007 6:06:58 PM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: mykdsmom

My 9 yr old says the same thing -- seems they are all thinking the same way. It would be a natural for Lucasarts ;-)


46 posted on 02/10/2007 6:28:07 PM PST by Xth Legion (Peace is a great alternative, after you've won!)
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To: Crimson Elephant

yea, but it's largely irrelevant as anyone who buys a player that does HD should be focused more on it's Hd capabilities rather than it's last gen standings. I watch DVD's on my PS3 but only because of ease.

I do want to get a HDMI 1.3 capable receiver so my PS3 can output in uncompressed lossless linear PCM. My understanding is that it's as perfect a sound as you can get in a home theatre. It blows DTS and Dolby completely out of the water.

And it doesn't matter since it's available on HD DVD and Blu-ray but The Searchers looks great in high def.

That's mainly why I'm happy with my PS3. A Blu-ray player that is top notch and all for a price that makes it a steal for what I want out of it.


47 posted on 02/10/2007 6:49:00 PM PST by Bogey78O (Nifong's final appeal before St. Peter should get tossed.)
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To: IronJack

Dont know what you mean about the multi core processors. XBox has a three core 3.2 GHz powerpc and the PS3 has the 7 Core Cell.


48 posted on 02/10/2007 7:31:30 PM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Caipirabob

I would go with the 360, actually I went with the 360. It has currently the most games, a great service called XBox live, however you get some filthy mouthed kids on there.

As far as HD-DVD goes, I got it but am regretting it. The movie selections are extremely limited, only one Studio supports it. Blu Ray has the widest selection. But the great thing about the 360 is that if in the future HD DVD fails MS can simply release a Blu Ray addon if they wished.


49 posted on 02/10/2007 7:38:27 PM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Caipirabob

We wanted the Wii, but had a hard time getting one around Christmas. We settled on the 360 with no regrets. I have to pry the controllers from the kids to make them go outside. Eventually, I'd like to pick up a Wii for the kids. As for the PS3, the kids don't seem to have any interest - which is good, considering the price tag.


50 posted on 02/10/2007 7:45:42 PM PST by Doc-Joe
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To: agarrett

My son is a Command & Conquer fanatic. He's beaten all of them as every side several times over. His favorite is Red Alert 2. Great job you have.


51 posted on 02/10/2007 8:00:19 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Zeon Cowboy
Have you beaten the Legendary level on Halo?
52 posted on 02/10/2007 8:04:48 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: aft_lizard

You are wrong, there are many many studios involved with HD DVD now, with sony and disney being the primary holdouts. I would google this for you but...


53 posted on 02/11/2007 12:15:27 AM PST by Company Man
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To: processing please hold

Call of Duty II, Battlefield II, Star Wars Battle Front, along with War Craft are the favorites in this house hold.


54 posted on 02/11/2007 12:18:20 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: processing please hold
"Have you beaten the Legendary level on Halo?"

In Halo, yes, I have beaten the game on Legendary. Not Halo 2, though. For some reason, I lost interest in Halo 2 faster.

The strength of the Halo series is in multiplayer, not the single-player campaigns. The story is pretty good, though.

For the record I'm primarily a PC gamer.
55 posted on 02/11/2007 12:20:11 AM PST by Zeon Cowboy ("Show me just what Muhammad brought... and there you will find things only evil and inhuman.")
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To: brwnsuga
"That's good baby".... my thought "what the hell is he talking about"

LOL!

56 posted on 02/11/2007 3:24:00 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Company Man

Well if there are more, then they need to start releasing more for thembecause I went to the store the other day and Blu Ray had about twice as many available titles as Hd DVD.


57 posted on 02/11/2007 7:37:19 AM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Caipirabob

I am late to this, got linked at:
http://www.informationarbitrage.com/2007/02/from_inside_ea_.html

I chose 360, and Samsung 50 inch HD DLP. Total $1500.

Why did I do that?
I really love this stuff.
Price,picture quality,Games, graphics, online play. And Football.
Patriots, for the win. Errr, almost.


The Wii is last generation, graphically.
Online, there is no comparison to the Xbox setup.
PS3 has no killer game. Plus a bit of a higher price.
So that was an easy choice, actually

TV's, so many darn TV's...
Price, size,replaceable bulb, picture quality, inputs,
no burn in, no lag, and that the heart
of the DLP is Texas instruments gadget were factors.
Texas is alright with me. You know?
My decision, after looking and studying a lot,it is a complicated mess, but my decision was finalised
after I learned that Samsung worked closely with Microsoft on thier 2006 line of DLP TV's to make it just work. It does. There had been a lag, or delay issue on previous models.
I wanted VGA input for my PC ,HDMI inputs, USB/flash drive input, plus the other standards. Got that.
But I do wish I got the 60 incher.
If in doubt, opt for the bigger one.

Together they are beautiful. There is no "rainbow" effect, no Lag, it is just gorgeous.
Absolutely Go look at them in the stores. Radio Shack actually has a nice setup for that in my area, and they left me alone with the clickers and a comfy chair. I put in hours just watching. Even brought my own DVD's.

The DLP I got was a reconditioned,from Tiger. 2006 model, got it with a strong all inclusive 27 month warranty (90 days, plus 2 year extended),for 1100 bux,delivered to my door. I used Froogle,the phone,just said no until I liked the number. I have had no issues with it. Tiger was excellent.


The thing is, they all are a lot of money. I would never ever have thought of spending a grand on a TV, but
today, that is a cheapseat.
Extended warranties are advised on these, generally considered the exception to the rule there.

Plasma's are very pretty,but they are expensive, have a limited lifespan, and burn in issues.
LCD's also have the cool thin look, but fisher-price bright colors, that to me was cartoonish. Bad set-ups are possible there.
There is a shinyness, glare off of the Plasma I do not like, but I really did not see any weakness in the picture. There is a plasma advantage on Black. Blacks can look
a bit grey, and dark scenes can lose definition, so try and have a source you are familiar with to look for that.
DLP's suffer when viewed from a steep angle. So, depending on how your setup will be, you should consider that.
The fancy,very cool wall mount is a great,stylish look, but it is costly and difficult to pull off. Just the wall mount gadget is hundreds of dollars.
Dont overlook a way to hide all the wiring that will go to the thing, from the various gadgets. I have the PC,the 360, an Xbox,PS2, DVD recorder, VCR,Upscaling DVD player,surround system all going in and out of there.
This gaggle of wire takes some time and patience to make neat, and hide. Velcro is your friend there, nice loops. Twist ties are good too.
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1080P? 1080I? Based on the large price gap, and my inability to see a difference between 1080I and 1080P, and that the content is virtually all @ 720P, I skipped the expense and chose the 1080I set.
Maybe next time.
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As far as High def movies? I picked up one of the $200 HD players for the 360. Four of us sat and watched Kong on the HD, vs Batman Begins on standard DVD, my upscaling DVD player, and through my old Xbox, that is modified with Xbox Media center (XBMC). Clicking back and forth and generally trying to compare. Unscientific to say the least, but one would expect obvious differences, right?
No.
There was no consensus. There were subtle differences, detail on distant shots for example.
I ended up returning the High def player to gamespot, they were good enough to take it back.
The

I am not sure if the content is taking advantage of the tech yet, and the subtle difference between them simply was not worth the much higher cost per movie.
Maybe next year.
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Sony is suprisingly weak, given that they have sold hundreds of millions of boxes, and Billions of games. Literally.
Game development for the PS3 is stalled,delayed
for many reasons.
Developers are trending toward the 360 and Wii.
There is currently no "killer app" for the PS3.
This is finally what moves these things. Wii sports is a fabulous example. Nintendo always seems to get that right.

As far as a software battle between Microsoft and Sony?
Microsoft has,err some experience there. And
Microsoft's hardware is reportedly much easier to work with. The sony architecture is new, and everyone is stumbling with it right now. Maybe next year.
The Wii motion gadget strength will be neutralised as
similar gadgets/games inevitably appear for 360 and PS3.

Also, the 360 is poised as the killer "Set top box"
in that war.



Hope my blather has helped some.
later.


58 posted on 02/11/2007 8:12:16 AM PST by pending (TODAY)
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To: agarrett

I own both the 360 and a PS3. I believe that both have it's pros and cons. With the 360, it's loud and gets hot, but does produce quality games that look and play great. With the PS3, it already has the HD movie player and a great interface that I feel blows away the 360s blade design. The PS3 also has free online gaming, which to me is another plus, regardless of how good or bad it is compared to the xbox...it's FREE. And speaking of cost, if you want HD movies on XBOX and wireless, fork out the money and end up paying more for the 360.

As with games, the PS3 is still running opening titles, with EA being one that didn't take the time to make a quality game just to make a quick buck or two. And if we talk about sales of those games...go figure, they're terrible. The Wii's football game is just as good. I think when the PS3 is a year old, games will be as good, if not better, than outstanding games such as GOW.

I do enjoy both, and will continue to use both. Don't plan on the Wii though. I've played it and think that's one of the consoles that is overrated.


59 posted on 02/11/2007 8:54:01 AM PST by NKAWTG
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To: Sprite518

Call of Duty 3 sucks on the wii. You can't ever tell where your rifle is pointed because there's no pointer to follow the movements of the wii mote. You never know where you're aiming unless you're using ADS. I bet it rocks on the 360.


60 posted on 02/11/2007 9:48:38 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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