Burn corn squeezins, make Chavez drink his oil.
To: Kitten Festival
Burn corn, half the 3rd world will starve.
bad, bad choice.
2 posted on
02/08/2007 7:36:50 PM PST by
xcamel
(Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
To: Uncledave
3 posted on
02/08/2007 7:36:53 PM PST by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Kitten Festival
Together with all other drinkers, I'm a proud Axis of Ethanol member. Ted K. is an honorary chair, BTW.
4 posted on
02/08/2007 7:38:15 PM PST by
GSlob
To: Kitten Festival
6 posted on
02/08/2007 7:40:58 PM PST by
Dajjal
(See my FR homepage for an essay about Ahmadinejad.)
To: Kitten Festival; All
9 posted on
02/08/2007 7:45:32 PM PST by
dynachrome
("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
To: Kitten Festival; Dog Gone; dalereed; Grampa Dave
Ethanol = Unsustainable, subsidized, food burning, mileage ruining, non-pipelinable, corrosive, caustic, economically backward FRAUD!!!
14 posted on
02/08/2007 7:51:16 PM PST by
SierraWasp
(Grayout Davis, Gang-Green Schwartzenegger... Recycled Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown!!! Watch for it in 4!!!)
To: Kitten Festival
Ethanol from Corn is certainly not the answer. And for starters there is not enough land area, for both food production and US ethanol consumption as a feul
I once thought long ago, What about pond scum? as in pumping CO2 into algae reactors.
I just looked it up, you Pump CO2 into giant glass solar algae photobioreactors....then you got two options...1) make biodiesel from the algae, or 2) Make it anaerobic and collect the Hydrogen gas. In the first case, the entire cycle would be carbon neutral process to the atmosphere. In the second case, it be carbon reducing. (Not that I'm taking a side on global warming or anything)
I'm not saying that it will be feasable, but I suspect algae reactors would be more energy rich and more efficient to maintain than ethanol production from corn or grass fields.
It might also be possible to do this on the ocean surface somehow, so as not to take up much land area.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I tried cramp bark when I was a kid! I could lift a car!
49 posted on
02/08/2007 8:31:00 PM PST by
SunkenCiv
(I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
To: Kitten Festival; xcamel; SierraWasp
There's
something here for everybody.
Butanol -- a four carbon alcohol. More compatible with pipelines and engine parts. Possibly higher production efficiencies than ethanol.
But you'll have to sort through it on your own.
51 posted on
02/08/2007 8:33:32 PM PST by
NicknamedBob
(Sign says, "No dogs allowed -- except seeing-eye dogs" Why don't they put that sign down lower?)
To: Kitten Festival
More nukes and less kooks...
53 posted on
02/08/2007 8:34:46 PM PST by
HereInTheHeartland
(Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
To: Kitten Festival
That is the truth if we came up with another fuel alternative that is economicaly viable to oil it would really make these middle eastern states begging us to buy dates from them.
To: Kitten Festival
Corn is one of the most fertilizer-intensive crops extant, because it produces an enormous variety of nutrients. Most of which are not needed at all, to produce ethanol. They are, of course, very valuable as human nutrients.
Ethanol can be produced by potatoes, rice, barley, a large variety of plants. To make ethanol from corn, which requires the greatest amounts of fertilizer, is just plain nonsensical. Better to make it from sugar beets, sugar cane, potatoes, or other starchy crops which do not need such high levels of fertilizer to maintain the soil in a productive state.
One would think this would be obvious to any semi-intelligent observer, but apparently it is not even remotely comprehensible to people in government. So sad.
So, it needs to be emphasized, perhaps with (idiotic) repetition, like the insanity of advertising: make ethanol from starchy crops, not high-nutrient-value crops. Duh!
To: Kitten Festival
The cost of corn has skyrocketed.
What does that mean?
U.S. dairy & cattle farmers are going bankrupt in record numbers.
105 posted on
02/09/2007 2:20:24 AM PST by
XR7
To: Kitten Festival
Petrodiesel, then bio-diesel. Reduce consumption, cause a price collapse, then cut Chavez and every other OPEC country off at the knees.
Regards, Ivan
108 posted on
02/09/2007 2:53:06 AM PST by
MadIvan
(I aim to misbehave.)
To: Kitten Festival
147 posted on
02/10/2007 12:56:18 PM PST by
Tolerance Sucks Rocks
(“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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