Posted on 02/08/2007 1:42:46 AM PST by Robert Drobot
It's kind of ironic. So many schools have cut the pledge of allegiance or cut "one nation under God" out of it. Our school still does the pledge every morning in it's entirety. Posting that will probably get the "other" extremists going on a rant and get that taken away.
I have already got it - Thanks!
You seem like a bright person. These entries all have numbers on them. You can figure out which ones I am replying to. This one is in response to # 149. There, I got you started.
I think I have had enough however. People here are starting to talk about muslims and quoting way too much ancient history. None of this had anything to do with all that. Any person, unknown, handing out anything - I don't care if they were passing out flowers, would have been asked to leave. It was about safety. If everyone here chooses to believe some big conspiracy theory, they can stay in that little world. Here's hoping you continue keep your mind open. Nice to meet you.
Catholics, and for that matter, all religious believers, have a dog in this hunt. Any authority that can stop an evangelical men's ministry from distributing Bibles and tract literature can do the same to another group.
Most distressing news.
I will take the word of World Net Daily and the defense counsel offered by the Gideons International any day over that of local authorities in a Florida county known for its tolerance of lewd and disgusting behavior by the local homosexual community during "Gay Pride" days.
Yes. Better yet, she and the school board trustees should permit the Gideons to come on the campus, and for that matter, Catholic, Mormon, Jewish, Seventh Day Adventist, etc., groups as they wish. All of these religions believe in voluntary persuasion and conversion, not coercion. All of these beliefs are compatible with free and representative government.
The founding fathers would be so proud of your childish bullying.
Standing up for Constitutionally protected freedoms is hardly bullying. The bullies are the people in authority who suppressed the right of the Gideons to distribute Scripture. They, and not the Gideons International nor the Alliance Defense Fund, are at fault in this matter.
As for the Founding Fathers, the fact that the Continental Congress funded the printing of Bibles would indicate that they were receptive to the distribution of Scripture. Until the leftist Warren Court concocted a doctrine of separation of church and state that effectively banned religion, specifically the Jewish and Christian faiths, from the public arena during the 1960s, the Gideons and other groups were free to enter public school campuses. I dare say the Founders would side with the Gideons International on this matter.
DOES a public sidewalk exist, where the two God fearing men were standing?
I am prtetty sure that reading, writing, math, science and social studies is on the agenda of PUBLIC schools. Leave the religion education to the churches. People can decide for themselves which is right for them; they know where to go.
They approched me in the parking lot.
I am sorry, I still had more to say before I posted. Is it at all possible for you to live in the HERE and now. I am sorry things are not the way they were hundreds of years ago. Mrs, Martinson, as a community leader, must respond to the parents of her school community, otherwise she would not have a job. Just because you have your way, doesn't make it everyone elses way. I am now 100% convinced that EVERYONE ON THIS SITE WHO IS SO APALLED ABSOLUTELY WANTS, WANTS, WANTS this to be an injustice done because of the Bibles. You all NEED it for something to do, something to complain about. Never mind the possibility of something far more innocent. You crave this, you will slant it to be something evil. No one can convince you otherwise. I think most of you will die young of anxiety, heart attack, whatever and might have missed out on just chilling out and enjoying the little things life has to offer. I truly am so sorry for you. I have let you all drag me from my family, the sunshine, good music, my dogs etc. I wish you all well.
Key Largo is 2 hours away from Key West where most of the homesexual reside. However, in Key Largo we still respect the rights of homosexuals to live a life that is right for them. They will NOT be allowed on campus to give anything away to our students or parents the same as anyone else.
This site showed up on many teachers' e-mail at the school. I have a close friend who teaches there and she was told SHE should be ashamed. Innocent people are being dragged into something that had nothing to do with them. How truly rude you are!
I agree that instruction in said subjects is the principal role of public schools. However, another aspect of public schools is instruction in ethics and civic responsibilities. Ethics and the duty of a person to others and society at large bring questions of a metaphysical nature into play. Why obey the law or why should I not covet my neighbor's wife or goods are questions that cannot be answered apart from one's beliefs regarding the fate of man and his eternal destiny. There are many Lutherans, Ba'hai adherents, Seventh Day Adventists, agnostics, and Buddhists obey the law and do not covet their neighbor's wife or goods, but for different underlying reasons.
In that regard, having a local pastor or rabbi address students can be considered as part of a good public education. It is true that in the 19th Century, a generic Protestantism was the de facto religion in the public schools in many area, complete with the King James Bible and an anti-Catholic bias in the history textbooks, a fact that generated the rise of the Catholic school system. However, offering the classroom on an occasional basis to a Gideon representative, a Mormon missionary, or an advocate of atheism can be a part of a public education. The key is showing a broad spectrum of views, unlike the case in the era that the public school system was established.
Both Key Largo and Key West are in Monroe County, as you are no doubt aware. The same sheriff's department that suppressed the Gideons in Key Largo apparently does not take issue with vulgar displays at Gay Pride parades in Key West. There is a real disconnect between busting two men wearing ties and jackets giving out Bibles and turning the other way when public lewdness laws are flouted.
I know Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, your Congresswoman (Republican) is endorsing pro-gay "anti-discrimination" legislation, too.
So the GOP label doesn't matter to me in this case.
Monroe County is a little San Francisco and it shows in the attitute of at least one GOP politician that I detect. Maybe your sheriff is in that club, too.
Key West has its own Police Department
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