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GOP Views Clinton As Virtually Unbeatable
The Politico ^ | 2/7/2007 | Carrie Sheffield and Jim VandeHei

Posted on 02/07/2007 5:48:59 AM PST by Mike Bates

What many conservatives regard as the nightmare scenario -- President Hillary Rodham Clinton -- is increasingly seen by veteran Republican politicians and strategists as a virtual inevitability.

In GOP circles, the Democratic front-runner is seen as so strong, and the political climate for Republicans so hostile, that many influential voices -- including current and former lawmakers, and veterans of President Bush's campaigns -- have grown despairing. These partisans describe a political equivalent of the stages of grief, starting with denial, then resentment and ending with acceptance.

For now, these Republicans say the party needs good luck, including a change of fortune in Iraq, and a revival of organization and leadership in the conservative movement to avert another Clinton presidency.

"If the conservative movement and Republicans don't understand how massive the Clinton coalition is, she will be the next president," former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said in an interview last week, after giving a private talk to GOP lawmakers. Clinton will win, he added, "if we don't use everything available to us and motivate our base, the people that believe in us."

In his closed-door comments to conservative House members, DeLay warned of the wealth and political potency of the Clinton fundraising network.

"We do have to get our act together, and I'd agree with Tom DeLay on that," said Rep. Steve King of Iowa. "At this point, short an inspirational Republican nominee, then I would agree that it's going to be very difficult to beat Hillary if she wins the nomination."

Those comments echoed those by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich last month on Fox News:

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; hillary; verrucktenfreude
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To: chimera

OK - how's about US doing a little of what it takes to get our man in? How about not bending over every time the clow car media chimes in? How about us stopping whining and maundering in public places about our poor chances? How about that?


41 posted on 02/07/2007 6:04:30 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: Wallace T.

I agree. My mom and I were talking about who was running so far. My reply: are these really my only choices? What would Reagan do? I really wish his mind hadn't gone. He would have been such a wonderful advisor for the GOP in the 90's... Heaven knows we could have used it!


42 posted on 02/07/2007 6:04:31 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (Adventure is the invitation to common people to become uncommon. Warren Miller)
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To: Mike Bates
In case no one else has stated the obvious yet, I'll do it:

If the Republicans lose to this creature they have no one, NO ONE, but themselves to blame.

And, as feckless, stupid, and craven as they (THE GOP) have been over the last six years, I wouldn't be surprised to see it.

She'll have to follow the bent one's advice and triangulate, posing as a centrist on important issues. (He is working behind the scenes, after all.) I'm betting she'll jump to the right of them on illegal immigration (it won't take much; some bogus fence-building and such, with plenty of hot air) and kick their asses.

43 posted on 02/07/2007 6:05:11 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Go back to the core Reagan beliefs, and stick to them, Republicans!

1. Cut Spending.
2. Cut Taxes.
3. Reduce Size and Scope of Government.

In that order.

There is simply no reason that the amount of money spent by the government has to go up, year after year. We have all accepted this as the normal way of things. It need not be so.

In fact, it is entirely achievable for government spending to go down year after year, for quite a long time. Real tax relief will come from real government contraction. Without spending less, all the promises of tax relief are just smoke-and-mirrors.

44 posted on 02/07/2007 6:05:15 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Have you ever noticed that whatever the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes"?)
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To: Mike Bates

It's hard to take any site that presents CBS news headlines as credible.


45 posted on 02/07/2007 6:05:40 AM PST by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: Mike Bates
1. The Democratic base is only slightly more thrilled with her then ours is, and they are more likely to sit home then ours is as well.

2. She is barely over 50% in likability and in people who MAY consider voting for her and the campaign ain't even started it yet.

3.With the DEM's in control, anything bad that happens tarnishes them now and not just us.

As long as we put up a leader and don't pussyfoot when it comes to campaigning, not only can we beat her, we could beat her with a wide margin.
46 posted on 02/07/2007 6:06:17 AM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: Rummyfan
stated that she will appropriate oil company profits (that's socialism!)

I can't wait to hear what whopper she tells next!

When she says she wants to confiscate profits, I don't think she's lying. She does.

47 posted on 02/07/2007 6:06:20 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: MNJohnnie
The "Conservative" media would rather spend 90% of it time shooting it own people in the back

Too many want to thow up any R and hope that person gets elected. Then they will whine about how so many so-called Rino's get elected.


Maybe, if the GOP would put up a viable, strong conservative candidate, they wouldn't have that problem. Instead, they keep rushing to the left to fill the void of the Dems moving even further leftward.

The GOP still hasn't figured out why the lost in 06. Now, they are latching onto an 08 defeat to avoid the rush.
48 posted on 02/07/2007 6:06:46 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: william clark

Not if he wins NY, NJ, PA and Florida. Otherwise we could have another 2000 scenario in a battleground state. I'd rather have strong, decisive win.


49 posted on 02/07/2007 6:07:36 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: twonie

"New people will be running for us. Never give up."

Sorry, it's a no win for the base. If we motivate, and elect Democrat-lite, the message to the Republicans is that we want Democrat-lite. And we will be fed a steady diet of Democrat-lite.
So, we just have to hope that the Democrats don't completely destroy the country while the Republicans regroup and figure out that most Americans are conservative and want conservative candidates.


50 posted on 02/07/2007 6:08:43 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Mike Bates
Republicans have been converted into a bunch of spineless wimps. Why are they afraid of that woman? A year is a long time and things will change between now and then. Hillary Clinton is not exactly the most likeable person in the room. She has none of the bonhomie affability of her husband. I don't view her presidency as ordained.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

51 posted on 02/07/2007 6:08:43 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Mike Bates

I don't think she's going to make it.

She has huge negatives.


52 posted on 02/07/2007 6:08:50 AM PST by DB
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To: Mike Bates

The irony is this:

The Dems were supposed to lose in 06, according to many of the conservative talkshow hosts, and that would be the end of the Democrat party.

Now, the demise of the Republican party seems imminent.


53 posted on 02/07/2007 6:08:54 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

I particularly like this analogy.

As for this one

She's thinking 'Get your hands off me you FJB!' and

Why doesn't that crucifix burn her skin?????

54 posted on 02/07/2007 6:08:57 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: nwrep

Exactly!


55 posted on 02/07/2007 6:09:14 AM PST by NYC Republican (Dems' Worst Nightmare- - - An Informed Voter)
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To: twonie
She is beatable

She's beatable from the simple question of WHAT has she done as a Senator?

I'd like to see ONE piece of legislation she's authored. Just one.

56 posted on 02/07/2007 6:09:22 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: OKSooner
If the Republicans lose to this creature they have no one, NO ONE, but themselves to blame... And, as feckless, stupid, and craven as they (THE GOP) have been over the last six years, I wouldn't be surprised to see it.

I will go further and say that it will be no great loss. If the Republicans continue along the path of almost-but-not-quite-as-bad, there will be nothing there worth saving. They are taking up a spot that could be occupied by a real political party.

They're all too interested in protecting their own necks. They won't figure out that doesn't work until the last one is kicked out of Washington.

57 posted on 02/07/2007 6:09:34 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Have you ever noticed that whatever the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes"?)
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To: Mike Bates

Well, hell. Why don't we just call off the election and start calling her Madame President now? How quickly can we have an inauguration?


58 posted on 02/07/2007 6:09:36 AM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Mike Bates

Why do I think SHE has more FBI files in her closet than any of us really know...including Rudy's......


59 posted on 02/07/2007 6:09:45 AM PST by mo
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To: Mike Bates

Well, if Republicans would actually stand up to the lies and smears, they'd stand more than a chance. They'd ensure that no Democrat gets elected to the WH in our lifetimes.

But no. They're all playing this new game called "new tone in Washington" and we're taking it on the chin.


60 posted on 02/07/2007 6:09:56 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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