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James Lileks: Don't Underestimate Giuliani (And Newt still can't win!)
The Newhouse News Service ^ | February 6, 2007 | James Lileks

Posted on 02/06/2007 6:08:59 PM PST by quidnunc

Rudy Giuliani is in. Suggested campaign slogan: "He dealt with Brooklyn. He can handle Baghdad.'' He's not a sure thing; he has enough baggage to fill the cargo hold of a cruise ship. His sundry personal-life issues bother social conservatives; the gun control stance dismays the Second Amendment wing of the party; the pro-choice opinions alarm the evangelicals. That leaves about 47 Republicans, right? After all, it's just a party of cousin-marrying yahoos who'd sooner shoot up Planned Parenthood than vote for one of those fish-on-Friday types. Right?

No. Voters are more flexible and forgiving than you might expect. And none of the objections obscure the central appeal of the Rudy candidacy: He'll nuke 'em if he has to. That won't be the central theme of his campaign, of course, but it's the unstated strength of his candidacy. He's not a wuss. Look at the rest of the field:

Mitt Romney. He's a heavy fave, but the M-word makes his support in the evangelical community unsure. Many will vote for him, since he's an all-around moral guy, and no one wants a public debate over doctrinal differences. Other evangelicals regard his faith as something between David Koresh and Scientology, and would rather vote for Joe Lieberman. (Him you could convert!) Romney has an abortion flip-flop to confront, which softens his support as well. He's a solid candidate thus far because he's, well, solid: He appears hewn from the Presidential Quarry.

On the other hand, he could be a genial cyborg from an invading race. Wouldn't exactly surprise anyone.

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(Excerpt) Read more at newhouse.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adulterer; bluestater; brooklynese; burnnycburn; corrupt; crimebuster; lawyer; nyersarecommies; nyliberal; nyscks; politician; prosecutor; squeegeestopper; streetsweeper; windowfixer
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To: Tarheel

So NYC liberal is redundant? Rino Rudy?


241 posted on 02/06/2007 9:06:50 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: nopardons

Maybe the mods ignore it...because they agree with the spammer...LOL


242 posted on 02/06/2007 9:08:03 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Blackirish

Exactly! We are on the same page completely with all the front loaded primaries. One year from today OK votes with a lot of other states.


243 posted on 02/06/2007 9:08:41 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy 08 -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: garv

I think, what with the DriveBys, Newt's Peter Point is Veep. Imagine the wreckage he could cause there, presiding over the Senate. Somehow, I'd guess he'd become a little more "hands on" than precedented protocol would dictate. And he has some scores to settle, too.

Not to mention his ideas, ideals, and ability to flak political points not having to be Chief Exec.


244 posted on 02/06/2007 9:09:40 PM PST by IslandJeff (that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
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To: Old_Mil; narses
Nope. Never supported Rudy. Too liberal for me. Won't rule him out -- ya know -- because of the tagline.

Of course, there's no reason to talk about the ridiculous also-rans who some FReepers like to support because they know the also-ran will never win, but this gives them a smug sense of self-satisfaction.

Rudy haters ought to take some Dale Carnegie courses:

245 posted on 02/06/2007 9:09:47 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: jellybean; STARWISE; Howlin; onyx; Hildy

Did any of you see Ann Coulter on Hannity??

I think I heard her say that she would vote for Hillary over Rudy.


246 posted on 02/06/2007 9:09:59 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: AmishDude

So we have a professional spammer on our hands? There must be a name for that!

Thanks for that link -- unbelieveable!


247 posted on 02/06/2007 9:10:51 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy 08 -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: narses

You obviously did not understand--your posts are redundant.


248 posted on 02/06/2007 9:10:53 PM PST by Tarheel (If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere... Rudy--2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

BRAVA !


249 posted on 02/06/2007 9:11:20 PM PST by nopardons
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To: AmishDude

Rudy haters? Try those who vomit at the thought of a pro-abort president. Try those who puke at the idea of a gun-grabber as chief magistrate. Hate Rudy? No, hate his hard left ideology? You betcha red rover. All day and every day.


250 posted on 02/06/2007 9:12:04 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Tarheel

Ah, well, no. I understood. You missed my point. Went right by you. And truth is never redundant.


251 posted on 02/06/2007 9:12:53 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: PhiKapMom

I asked IT (the spammer) last night if it was being paid by Hillary Clinton to do that.


252 posted on 02/06/2007 9:13:00 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: narses
Try those who vomit at the thought of a pro-abort president. Try those who puke at the idea of a gun-grabber as chief magistrate.

Flies...honey...vinegar.

253 posted on 02/06/2007 9:13:13 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude

Flies...merde...iron.


254 posted on 02/06/2007 9:13:42 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: garv

There is no question that a large segment of Republican voters are not familiar with Giuliani's positions on many important issues.



I guess you think that knowledgable convervative Iowa caucus voters you give Rudy the #1 spot are stupid.


255 posted on 02/06/2007 9:13:48 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: onyx

Now there's a post I can get behind. LOL


256 posted on 02/06/2007 9:14:07 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Txsleuth; PhiKapMom

LOL, ready for recess yet?


257 posted on 02/06/2007 9:14:14 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: narses
Spiff, who did the color scheme?

The colors are #B0E0E6 and #FF6347. Otherwise known as powderblue and tomato. I picked them for their suitability as a background color to black text.

258 posted on 02/06/2007 9:14:27 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Txsleuth

She did!


259 posted on 02/06/2007 9:14:47 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Peach

Words of beauty!


260 posted on 02/06/2007 9:14:47 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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