Rudy’s a No-Go

National Review ^ | 2/6/2007 | Terence P. Jeffrey

[alnick]

As much as I like the guy, I do not plan to support him in the primary for just the reasons this article lists.

I'm praying someone good will emerge and win the nomination.

[brazzaville]

Good morning.
"Immigration and gay marriage would have been stopped him from winning anyway."

His 2nd Amendment stance is going to mean more than he thinks, too. Judging by the tenor of the for and against posts, it'll an interesting run up to the primaries.

Michael Frazier

[brazzaville]

Good morning.
"Immigration and gay marriage would have been stopped him from winning anyway."

His 2nd Amendment stance is going to mean more than he thinks, too. Judging by the tenor of the for and against posts, it'll an interesting run up to the primaries.

Michael Frazier

[thepresidentsbestfriend]

God Bless poor Pat Robertson!! He is getting old. Jesus does not support Rudy!!! Ask me how I know ? I asked him and he clearly told me ,"No Rudy"

[FreeInWV]

"In fact, an exit poll question from Pew in 2004 revealed that only 3% of voters named abortion as their top voting issue, 2% named religiosity, and 2% named gay marriage."

It matters more than you suggest.

According to USA Today, "barely one in five Republicans knew that he supports abortion rights and civil unions for same-sex couples." Most Republicans did not know that he was pro-choice.

When they were told about his stance on those issues, his support wavered. One in five Republicans said his views would "rule him out as a candidate" they could support. That included one-third of those who attend church every week, an important base of the GOP that makes up a third of party loyalists. Another 25% of Republicans said his views made them less likely to support him.

[ElkGroveDan]

Rudy = Arnold, and we all know how well THAT's coming along.

Yep, and they are all saying the same thing the CA RINOs did 4 years ago.

[nctexan]

"I hope Hillary wins in 2008, maybe then the GOP will learn another lesson..."

Wow, that's some long term thinking there.

Let's burn the house down with everybody in it... Then we won't have anyone that doesn't support the rights of the unborn.

[jla]

Are the socons nervous about Rudy because, if he were to win, it would demonstrate that the socons are not as much of the base as they would like to believe?

No, and no.

[Southerngl]

I didn't realize that Rudy was for Partial Birth Abortion. There are alot of people are not for having the abortion itself under restricted circumstances, but aren't for PBA. Is this person just jumping the gun and labeling something on him? Is National Review becoming a clone of the MSM in it's skewing of the truth?

[flashbunny]

shhhh, don't mention that inconvenient fact to them.

Remember the mantra? "Vote for (R)nold because he can win, and the democrat would be worse!"

Now look what it did for california!

[Fawn]

Everytime you post that misleading out of context made up unconfirmed home made chart.....I am more determined to get all my friends and family to vote for Rudi.

[James Ewell Brown Stuart]

Not bad at all. I match you in the general election and in the primary, mine won in 80, 84, 88, 92, 00, and 04.

[thepresidentsbestfriend]

Of course he is going to say that.

[Obadiah]

That's the point. Why should I vote for Rudy? He doesn't share my values. Oh, I should vote for him because he's better than Hillary? Have you thought of the irreparable damage this asymmetrical "Republican" President could foist upon us?

In my mind, Hillary as an opponent is better to combat than a Republican Trojan horse Rudy presidency.

[upsdriver]

It has nothing to do about "teaching a lesson", it's about living and voting my own conscience. The lesser of two evils is still evil. You vote for Rudy if you want and I'll use my right to vote as I want.

[Reagan Man]

Terry Jeffrey is 100% correctamundo.

It would appear that this man....

....has more in common with these two liberal men.......

..... then he ever had in common with this conservative man.....

And Happy 96th Birthday Anniversary, Mister President!

[TitansAFC]

---Rudy: "Marriage should be between a man and a woman. here is exactly the position I've always had."---

LIAR!

New York Daily News,
March 8, 2004

Rudy opposes gay nups ban:

http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg/asc/projects/soin/liveIssues/newyorkmarriage.html

""I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani, who lived with a gay Manhattan couple when he moved out of Gracie Mansion during his nasty divorce.

Giuliani took his gay rights stance just as speculation hits a fever pitch that he's in line to replace Cheney on Bush's ticket...

...Giuliani conceded he's "out of sync" with his party's conservative base, but likened himself to other moderate GOP stars like Gov. Pataki and Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Even Rudy says Rudy isn't a Conservative. And even Rudy says Rudy thinks there should be gay marriage. So take Rudy's word for it: he's NO Conservative (calls himself a moderate), and he supports gay marriage (unless he's lying for votes).

[dmw]

"Second, I like him. I can't help it. I just do."

Nothing wrong with liking Rudy, but it isn't a valid reason to vote for him. We need to put our feelings aside and think of the long term consequences of having a liberal president, especially at a time when we have liberals controlling congress.

[megatherium]

Some people who say they're against gay marriage will say they support civil unions. I think Rudy might be one of those. He's certainly not anti-gay (he has gay friends, I seem to recall he was sharing a gay friend's condo after he got divorced).

I no longer believe that an insufficiently anti-gay stance will hurt a candidate in the general election. The American people have softened considerably in their attitudes towards gays, if opinion polls are accurate. The primaries are another matter, however.

Personally, I'm more concerned about abortion and immigration.

[zbigreddogz]

Rudy is neither conservative, nor electable

I stopped reading here. We can debate how conservative Rudy is, I'm fine with that, and because of his position on abortion, I'm not supporting him at this time, although I could see myself changing my mind.

That said, saying Rudy is unelectable is an insult to my intelligence. No reasonable person thinks this, and there is no evidence to suggest this other then the way someone feeeeeelllllsss, and I don't really care how he feels. If anybody wants to prove to me Rudy is the wrong man, which I already am sympathetic to, do so with things that make sense, not obvious hyperbole to mask what you are really saying.