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Backlash Grows Over Mandatory STD Shots
Express-News Austin Bureau ^ | 02/06/07 | Janet Elliott

Posted on 02/06/2007 8:45:52 AM PST by Froufrou

Gov. Rick Perry stood firm Monday against a political firestorm ignited by his order that sixth-grade girls be inoculated against a sexually transmitted disease that can cause cervical cancer.

Social conservatives from Austin to Washington joined some state lawmakers in calling for Perry to reverse his executive order making Texas the first state to mandate the human papillomavirus vaccine for girls entering sixth grade in September 2008.

Several legislators expressed outrage that Perry circumvented the legislative process. Several bills had been filed to make the HPV shots mandatory for school enrollment.

"This needs closer examination. How much will it cost the state?" Senate Health and Human Services Committee Chairman Jane Nelson, R-Lewisville, said at a news conference.

"Most importantly, as a mother of four daughters I want to make sure our daughters' health is protected and parental rights are preserved."

Another senator, Glenn Hegar, R-Katy, said he'd file legislation to reverse Perry's order, which he said was not in the best interest of the state.

Parents will be able to opt their 11- and 12-year-old daughters out of the program, as they can for other required vaccines.

As speculation swirled about why Perry risked angering his conservative base, political observers said the governor is showing newfound independence and may be trying to raise his national profile as a potential vice presidential candidate.

The governor's spokesman also indicated that first lady Anita Perry's strong support for the vaccine might have played a role in the decision. A former nurse and the daughter of a doctor, Anita Perry works for an organization dealing with sexual assaults.

"I know they have discussed it, and it's something they both feel very strongly about," the spokesman, Robert Black, said.

In a statement, Perry addressed criticism that the vaccine could send a message that teenage sex is permissible.

"Providing the HPV vaccine doesn't promote sexual promiscuity any more than providing the Hepatitis B vaccine promotes drug use," he said.

"If the medical community developed a vaccine for lung cancer, would the same critics oppose it claiming it would encourage smoking?"

Perry's office said it would cost the state $29 million for its share of inoculating students who are uninsured or on government health programs. Federal funds also will be available for children on Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program.

Federal health authorities last year recommended girls and young women get the vaccine, which prevents infection by four common strains of the HPV virus, which can cause cervical cancer years after infection.

Cervical cancer accounts for 3,700 deaths a year in the United States, including nearly 400 in Texas.

House Ways and Means Chairman Jim Keffer, R-Eastland, said he supports the vaccine but noted that other state legislatures have decided not to make it mandatory.

"What kind of deal was made?" asked Keffer, referring to comments by Cathie Adams, president of Texas Eagle Forum, that Perry's political ties with drug company Merck may have influenced the decision.

Perry's office has denied he was influenced by anything other than health concerns. His ex-chief of staff, Mike Toomey, is a lobbyist for Merck and Perry got $6,000 in contributions from the drug manufacturer's political action committee.

Black said Perry and Toomey never discussed the issue, and noted the Merck campaign contributions were relatively small.

"The governor is very pro-life, and he views this as protecting life," Black said. "The human race has never had an opportunity to prevent cancer. Not to pursue that opportunity, the governor believes that would be morally reprehensible."

Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst and House Speaker Tom Craddick both said Perry did not consult them. Craddick said he didn't have a position on the issue. Dewhurst said he would prefer a voluntary vaccination program.

GOP consultant Royal Masset said he thinks Perry wants to be considered as a national leader. Perry talked about international terrorism and immigration reform in his inaugural address.

"Health care is one of the most powerful issues we're going to be dealing with nationally," Masset said.

Meanwhile, a Christian group knocked the Texas governor in a Washington update mailed to supporters Monday.

Tony Perkins with Family Research Council said, "By commandeering this issue, Gov. Perry, who has championed family values, has only succeeded in arousing more mistrust."


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To: kinoxi

There were also a few cases of 'bronchospasm' and asthma attributed to the series of 3 shots given over a 6-month period of time.

Someone here posted on my other thread yesterday that they have a nephew who had a terrible reaction to a vaccine. This is serious business, not a miracle drug.


41 posted on 02/06/2007 9:21:04 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: kinoxi
The college of pediatrics is pro cancer?
42 posted on 02/06/2007 9:22:55 AM PST by skaterboy
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To: Froufrou

I'll take your word on it for now. The actual transference and infection of the unrelated sickness you described remains suspect to me however.


43 posted on 02/06/2007 9:23:12 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: Caesar Soze; Nathan Zachary

Some people are happy to 'no big deal' their way through life.

And some prefer to study more than surface aspects of a situation before imparting judgment, eh Nathan?


44 posted on 02/06/2007 9:23:58 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: CholeraJoe
"OK if people don't want this vaccine then also legislate that anyone receiving public health assistance (Medicaid) cannot receive any treatment for cervical cancer, screening or genital warts at public expense if they refuse the vaccine."

Why? This "vaccine" does not prevent either of those. And, of the 4 strains (3 cancer, 2 warts) it does have effect on, it also MAY not work. The companies own literature says this.

45 posted on 02/06/2007 9:23:59 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: skaterboy
Repeating my question yields the obligatory '?' in response.
46 posted on 02/06/2007 9:24:34 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: msnimje

Peopel who work for the company who makes this are big Gov Goodhair contributors.


47 posted on 02/06/2007 9:25:34 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: kinoxi
"The actual transference and infection..."

...is caused by 'male bombardment.' If you don't believe me, ask an OB-GYN. Males don't get cervical cancer, but they go get and transfer genital warts. Why aren't they on the list to receive the vaccine.
48 posted on 02/06/2007 9:26:10 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Nathan Zachary
it also MAY not work

It is about 70% effective, roughly the same as flu shots.

49 posted on 02/06/2007 9:26:24 AM PST by CholeraJoe (The only Americans who need to know where Syria is are the navigators on the bombers.)
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To: Caesar Soze

Everyone I've talked to has a problem with the "brotherinlaw deal" part of this as well as the "bypassing legislative process and discussing costs, budgeting, etc." part of it moreso than the issue of whether the idea of the vaccine itself is good or bad.


50 posted on 02/06/2007 9:26:40 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (Funny, but I don't remember pressing 1 for English in 1994.)
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To: mnehrling
Interesting article on HPV and the myth being played up about the cancer link

Thanks for the link.

Women Misinformed About HPV-Cancer Link
Media Coverage of HPV Testing Blurs Cervical Cancer Link

SNIP

Stressing the Truths About HPV

In an editorial that accompanies the studies, Bradley J. Monk, MD, of the University of California at Irvine, and colleagues say these studies highlight the public's misconceptions about the association between HPV and cervical cancer.

"Their findings suggest that it is little wonder that the public is informed so inadequately about the virus, the consequences of infection, and the natural history of cervical [cancer]," they write.

The editorialists say that the first step in improving the public's knowledge of HPV is to clearly state the truths about HPV infection, stressing six basic points:

  1. HPV is a sexually transmitted disease.

  2. HPV is the most common sexually transmitted disease.

  3. The overwhelming majority of women with HPV will not develop cervical cancer. Cervical cancer is an extremely rare complication of a common infection.

  4. The spontaneous resolution of HPV is common [HPV infection often goes away on its own without treatment].

  5. Most women who test positive for high-risk HPV will not be diagnosed with cervical cancer or a precancerous condition upon further evaluation.

  6. The purpose of a Pap smear is to detect HPV-related lesions, including cervical cancer, and their precursors.

51 posted on 02/06/2007 9:26:45 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Froufrou

They most likely are. The female vaccine is available now.


52 posted on 02/06/2007 9:27:52 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: Froufrou
and may be trying to raise his national profile as a potential vice presidential candidate.

Stick that profile out a little further, boy.

I want it smacked HARD!

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Parents will be able to opt their 11- and 12-year-old daughters out of the program, as they can for other required vaccines.

As posted earlier, this is a lie;

Texas Education Code
CHAPTER 38. HEALTH AND SAFETY
§ 38.001. IMMUNIZATION; REQUIREMENTS; EXCEPTIONS.
SUBCHAPTER B. SCHOOL-BASED HEALTH CENTERS § 38.053. PARENTAL CONSENT REQUIRED.
(a) A school-based health center may provide services to a student only if the district or the provider with whom the district contracts obtains the written consent of the student's parent or guardian or another person having legal control of the student on a consent form developed by the district or provider.

The State has to GET consent, it can't ASSUME consent and make the parent prove differently.

This edict is illegal on a lot of levels. Just sent 2 detailed letters to Reps via email.

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Parental duty calls, I'll check back later.

Thanks for the ping!

53 posted on 02/06/2007 9:28:46 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am not an administrative, public, corporate or legal 'person'.....and neither are my children!)
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To: kinoxi

No, ma'am. You are wrong. Only 6th-grade girls are mandated for the vaccine.


54 posted on 02/06/2007 9:29:00 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: mnehrling
One of the issues with the media coverage and arguments is they don't tell you that HPV is not just a sexually transmitted disease, there are other ways to catch HPV.

I'm not a medical professional or anything, but here goes: HPV is the family of viruses that cause warts. The various strains of HPV are specific to certain parts of the body. So, a wart on your nose is a strain of HPV, but that strain is not thought to be able to infect other parts of the body. So, even if there were..ahem... nose-to-genital contact, the wart on your nose would not infect the genitals. Now, even within the number of strains that do infect the genital area, only a specific few are thought to be associated with increased risk for cervical cancer (a couple of which this vaccine targets).

So, saying that so many strains of HPV can be transmitted by other than sexual contact is irrelevant to this situation. The only strains that cause genital warts (or increase risk for cervical cancer) ARE transmitted by genital-to-genital contact (although the possibility of an indirect transmission, such as sharing a towel, has been discussed).
55 posted on 02/06/2007 9:30:24 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: kinoxi
"Are you saying that these vaccinations are actually spreading disease?"

They could in a sense.

Women would think they are immune and continue spreading it around, thinking they were 'vaccinated'. Memember the old song'
"kissing causes germs;
germs are hated;
but kiss me baby;
I'm vaccinated!

look haw many actually believe this vaccine will cure HPV already, when in fact it MAY only prevent TWO cancer causing strains. A regular check up and pap smear can prevent all of them.

56 posted on 02/06/2007 9:31:04 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Froufrou

I don't answer to ma'am, and your point is irrelevant with regard to this disease.


57 posted on 02/06/2007 9:31:42 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: VRWCmember
think that the government should mandate that 11 y/o girls be forced to get this vaccination regardless of what the parents and the girl's doctor consider the best course of action?

The program allows parents to opt out.

58 posted on 02/06/2007 9:32:19 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Nathan Zachary

"It may also give uniformed women a false sense of security, and they would forgo regular pap smears. This 'vaccine' may end up causing more cancer than it saves."

Ludicrous. You have probably gotten at least 6 different vaccines in your life, more if you are much of an international traveler. Have you ever thought to yourself, "Well I got that yellow fever shot last year when I went to South Africa, surely I can skip my yearly check-up with my family doctor."


59 posted on 02/06/2007 9:32:25 AM PST by Sols
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To: msnimje

It depends. If you know your child is not sexually active, then why give them a vaccine.

If the risks for the vaccine is high, and the benefits low then why give a child the vaccine.

If the vaccine has not been tested much on children, then why give them the vaccine.

Also, I absolutely would not make it mandatory because HIV is not an airborne disease. I can go into a room with a person with HIV and not catch it. Other illnesses like measle, you only have to be in the room with someone to catch it.


60 posted on 02/06/2007 9:33:06 AM PST by luckystarmom
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